57v earth to neutral. yikes
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so you do understand the difference then,
a voltstick only detects an induced voltage, not a true voltage then,
would you agree with that?
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all 'proper' voltage indicaters require the circuit to be made, even neons and 'dilogs' and their derivatives.
a voltstick only detects an induced voltage, not a true voltage then,
would you agree with that?
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all 'proper' voltage indicaters require the circuit to be made, even neons and 'dilogs' and their derivatives.
you and your warbling post brought voltstick to mind,
Im not meaning to be patronising[if that is how you see it]
but how I see it is a 'proper' voltage indicator should be able to show you where the voltage is, not merely that a voltage is present.
Im not meaning to be patronising[if that is how you see it]
but how I see it is a 'proper' voltage indicator should be able to show you where the voltage is, not merely that a voltage is present.
yeah my question was how does it do it?
if you connect a filament lamp across a ac supply it will indicate voltage, connected eitherway, a induced voltage would be picked up all along the filament and any connecting wires so with induced voltage indicator would indicate all along the circuit and therefore could not indicate at which side is the live.
i really cannot accept your dilog would indicate which side is live when connecting across a load.
what i'm saying is it will indicate live when the tester is used with 1 probe but not when connected across supply/load
???
ps this is a chilled discussion not a my dads harder than your dad:x
if you connect a filament lamp across a ac supply it will indicate voltage, connected eitherway, a induced voltage would be picked up all along the filament and any connecting wires so with induced voltage indicator would indicate all along the circuit and therefore could not indicate at which side is the live.
i really cannot accept your dilog would indicate which side is live when connecting across a load.
what i'm saying is it will indicate live when the tester is used with 1 probe but not when connected across supply/load
???
ps this is a chilled discussion not a my dads harder than your dad:x
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yep, but a di-log [or similar] (even a neon) doesnt measure induced voltage, it measures actual voltage/potential, therefore it can determine on which pole/probe the voltage/potential is present.
[quote name='Lee
why?
what theory is that?
basic principles of electricity will tell you that it flows in a direction,
detecting that direction is actually very simple,
put your finger on a N
no shock,
put your finger on a line,
bad day explode
simples, you have determined the direction of flow,
disclaimer,: do NOT actually do this.
what theory is that?
basic principles of electricity will tell you that it flows in a direction,
detecting that direction is actually very simple,
put your finger on a N
no shock,
put your finger on a line,
bad day explode
simples, you have determined the direction of flow,
disclaimer,: do NOT actually do this.
just read your dilog manual it cannot tell you which is live when connected across a ac supply
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put your finger on a live and nothing. this has already been done on this forum
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put your finger on a live and nothing. this has already been done on this forum
[quote name='Lee
Im still not convinced he realises the difference between a voltstick and a neon even.
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He even said he wouldnt click on the links I provided to show the difference. !!!
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He even said he wouldnt click on the links I provided to show the difference. !!!
ok, so tell me what the difference is between a volt stick and a neon?
and 300v L-E as regards to what?
and 300v L-E as regards to what?
you sure?
earlier you said 57v N-E,
so 300v live to earth, what live?
line or neutral.
so you still dont know what a neon is then?
earlier you said 57v N-E,
so 300v live to earth, what live?
line or neutral.
so you still dont know what a neon is then?
how can you possibly have 300v LINE to Earth.?
sounds like the biggest fault you have here is one of two things
A your tester
B the tester
now, without being condescending,
considering you dont even know what a neon indicator is,
my guess would be B
sounds like the biggest fault you have here is one of two things
A your tester
B the tester
now, without being condescending,
considering you dont even know what a neon indicator is,
my guess would be B
