Amd3 Cable Supports

[kerching]

Just to,the side of Passport Control,at Scotch Corner...there is a really good Cafe/service stop in a little lay by....far better than the one around the corner.

Just used to use it a lot

 

[Andy™]

sedbury layby? never been there for years. close enough to home to just carry on

 

[kerching]

Thats it.....Sedbury

Excellent cherry scones and Blueberry Muffins

Just feeling hungry now

 

[steptoe]

I love it, come work for me for a few weeks :slap

See how specialised and picky and funny i can be :slap ask monkey msl1:

mind you i don't think you could cope with the heat down south  :innocent

I am normally called far worse  :slap

I dont think you could afford my bar and entertainments bill  :slap

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

Biggest problem is telephone 'engineers' & Sky installers both who clip or staple their cables round every door frame they can find. This is outside of BS7671 and a metal staple isnt going to do much when the architrave is on fire.

What about the plastic plug your using to hold the metal clip to the wall ?

 

[Lurch]

What about the plastic plug your using to hold the metal clip to the wall ?

If you did it properly you wouldn't have used a standard plastic plug so irrelevant.

 

[steptoe]

AFAIAA plastic plugs comply,

I dunno why either,  :C

 

[kerching]

Bring back Alex Plugs then?



So WHO remembers them then?

 

[Lurch]

Bring back Alex Plugs then?

So WHO remembers them then?

You make it sound like they are old and unheard of. I thought they were reasonably modern and common?

 

[kerching]

Well the last time i saw them used in any quantity was early 70s by, what is now, Open reach.

Not seen them for years....but what do I know

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

BT are the only people i have ever seen use them.

About 6 years ago we did a refurb where the whole fire alarm installation was wired  surface in red FP  fixed with red pvc cable clips. I was surprised these clips were ever made. The job must have been a gooden though as the whole building had one detector zone and one sounder circuit, but did have the Niceic installation cert next to it   :|   .

 

[Sidewinder]

You have to understand the reasons for the reg, to, understand why the plastic wall plug is fine.

Ask yourselves why these metal supports are needed, and come back with some suggestions.

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

If the las

You have to understand the reasons for the reg, to, understand why the plastic wall plug is fine.

Ask yourselves why these metal supports are needed, and come back with some suggestions.

I was being facetious    ;  

 

[IzzyS]

Time to buy shares in Buckle Clip Ltd  methinks.

I guess SWAs  will have to go back to those aluminium cleats then.

Does aluminium count as fire resistant?  It has a melting point of ~660 degrees C, which is lower than that of the copper cables it is meant to support.

 

[steptoe]

Does aluminium count as fire resistant?  It has a melting point of ~660 degrees C, which is lower than that of the copper cables it is meant to support.

its not the melting of the cables,

its the melting of the supports/clips etc that is in question.

 

[IzzyS]

its not the melting of the cables,

its the melting of the supports/clips etc that is in question.

That's my point - the cables will outlast the aluminium supports.

 

[steptoe]

That's my point - the cables will outlast the aluminium supports.

and???????????

by the time the supports melt it will be too hot for anyone to enter the building anyway, and anyone still inside will be burnt to a crisp anyway.

your point is?

 

[IzzyS]

and???????????

by the time the supports melt it will be too hot for anyone to enter the building anyway, and anyone still inside will be burnt to a crisp anyway.

your point is?

Fire-fighters come in waving big skooshy hose-like things that spray a special liquid coolant. They wear BA and heat-resisting suits and look for charred occupants.  The fire fighters are those this regulation is intended to save.  However, given that half of them also moonlight as "no-paper trail" sparks, I have mixed views.

If the authorities really wanted to save lives, they should legislate for compulsory sprinklers in all new builds & refurbs.  Then trunking and plastic clips would be fine.  

 

[binky]

but aluminium supports will outlast plastic cable clips and trunking, though i would have thought most cable supports would be steel

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

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If the authorities really wanted to save lives, they should legislate for compulsory sprinklers in all new builds & refurbs.  Then trunking and plastic clips would be fine.  

About a year and a half ago we refurbished a house and added a loft conversion. Hertfordshire council made the owners  fit a sprinkler system on the staircase in addition to smoke alarms. I never saw the finished job, A pressure vessel was to be fitted in the old outside lav and i had to run a 13A FCU to  it. A 32mm ish barrel was run from here up the stairwell . Not done any other domestic jobs  for any other LABC where this was insisted.