Certificate or not?

[bluetobits]

Hi all, does anyone know if it is a requirement by law or any regulation to issue an MWC or EIC for work carried out solely in commercial premises not adjoining a dwelling. My boss doesn't seem bothered and i'm trying to put my case forward to him. Surely you take responsibility for a circuit if you alter it?

 

[matt.leung]

what sort of work is being carried out?

- new circuits?

- like for like?

- extention of circuits?

etc.....

 

[bluetobits]

All sorts, extensions to rings, additions to lighting circuits, new circuits, replacement of cabling etc etc...

 

[kme]

The only difference from a certification POV, between domestic premises and any other, is the "part `P`" building reg.

All BS7671 certs (EIC,MWC,PIAT etc.) are to isswued for ANY electrical works, irrespective of the nature of the premises.

KME

 

[bluetobits]

Thanks for that, that was my opinion also. However, convincing my boss is another matter.

 

[kme]

Question 1: Who`s the electrician? Him or you?

Question 2: whichever the answer in Q1 above; refer to BS7671: regs:

610.1

610.4

610.6

611

631.1

631.3

633.1

HTH

KME

 

[green-hornet]

I have just started some work for a bloke who has never had an MWC and was taken by surprise when I gave him one, saying he had never had one of those before.

When I told him it was required as part of the wiring regulations, he ended up giving me even more work !!

 

[PC Electrics]

I would say that the Electricity At Work Regulations (EAWR) pretty much makes compliance with BS7671 a legal requirement, which in turn (see above) requires the issue of certificates for work done.

If there were any problems with any work which caused any kind of injury or damage (eg fire) I would expect the "fallout" to land firmly in your bosses lap.

 

[Lillpete]

Its a case of arse covering, the certificate shows you have carried out the relevant test/inspect

 

[kme]

Its a case of arse covering, the certificate shows you have carried out the relevant test/inspect

IMO, its more a case of "electricians do, cowboys don`t".

So, that begets the question - which is your boss?

I would say that the Electricity At Work Regulations (EAWR) pretty much makes compliance with BS7671 a legal requirement, which in turn (see above) requires the issue of certificates for work done.

If there were any problems with any work which caused any kind of injury or damage (eg fire) I would expect the "fallout" to land firmly in your bosses lap.

Aye. AND yours, under some circumstances. Again, depends on the nature of the company, and your employment. Who`s the QS?

KME

 

[PC Electrics]

Blue, have you raised this issue with your Boss again? What kind of response did you get? Any other feedback?

 

[bluetobits]

One of the other sparks who works with us has mentioned it but not had a response yet. Think we may as well talk to wall!