Company refusing to connect new cooker until C/U is upgraded

[batty]

I have heard of companys not connecting cookers if there is no outlet plate. This is wrong as there is nothing in regs to say you need an outlet plate for cookers in fact sometimes it is better without and quicker to install. A lot of theser companys charge

 

[The Godfather]

It just goes to show, that perhaps some of BG's employees are not up to scratch, and to protect themselves (BG) over complicates the regulatory requirements of BS7671.

The Godfather

 

[steptoe]

what does the instruction manual for the cooker say?

RCD required?

therefore overiding any other reg, even your beloved 7671,

follow the manufacturers instructions.

BTW, fitting an RCBO does NOT subsitute for an RCD, not even a DP RCBO, the clue is in the name. the breaking capacity for an RCD is much much greater than an RCBO.

not me that makes the rules, !!!!!!

 

[batty]

Unless it is a TT system no cooker should need an Rcd. Cookers have been around for 60 years or more without Rcd's so why should they need them now.

Batty

 

[The Godfather]

Steptoe, with the arrival of the 17th do you not expect White goods manufacturers to stipulate RCD protection (Other than mentioning the requirements of BS7671)?

(Showers have had this stipualtion for some time now)

Don

 

[The Godfather]

Unless it is a TT system no cooker should need an Rcd. Cookers have been around for 60 years or more without Rcd's so why should they need them now.Batty

Compliance with the 17th edition.

The Godfather

 

[batty]

But an existing installation that has no Rcd protection if you are changing like for like why should you suddenly need an Rcd I cannot see this. By connecting that cooker you are not making the installation any less safe than what it already was.

Batty

 

[The Godfather]

But an existing installation that has no Rcd protection if you are changing like for like why should you suddenly need an Rcd I cannot see this. By connecting that cooker you are not making the installation any less safe than what it already was.Batty

Agree 100% Batty, but your previous post implied in general, rather than to the OP here.

(Perhaps I misunderstood your post)

Don

 

[Jono Pashley]

Long before i started going to college to do 2330 we had out kitchen done up. Whoever did the electrics put the cooker point on the ring circuit. For now theres only a 13A oven installed. Decorating the room next to the kitchen soon so i may put a 6mm cable in, seeing as it will be a new circuit and i assume i can use this as a job towards my assessment?

 

[green-hornet]

Long before i started going to college to do 2330 we had out kitchen done up. Whoever did the electrics put the cooker point on the ring circuit. For now theres only a 13A oven installed. Decorating the room next to the kitchen soon so i may put a 6mm cable in, seeing as it will be a new circuit and i assume i can use this as a job towards my assessment?

Yes you can.It is also notifiable(kitchen).

 

[ianmacd]

Yes you can.It is also notifiable(kitchen).

And because its a new circuit.

 

[Andy™]

Decorating the room next to the kitchen soon so i may put a 6mm cable in, seeing as it will be a new circuit and i assume i can use this as a job towards my assessment?

but should be notified to LABC....

 

[septiclecky]

British Gas, as I understand charge almost

 

[steptoe]

Steptoe, with the arrival of the 17th do you not expect White goods manufacturers to stipulate RCD protection (Other than mentioning the requirements of BS7671)?(Showers have had this stipualtion for some time now)

Don

the very point I was trying to make Don,

I would be very surprised if the manual/manufacturer didnt stipulate the requirement for an RCD.

 

[Jono Pashley]

but should be notified to LABC....

Already spoke to LABC about it, they say if i have paperwork to prove its for an assessment and 17th Ed they will waive the fee, good news for me.

 

[SPECIAL LOCATION]

Already spoke to LABC about it, they say if i have paperwork to prove its for an assessment and 17th Ed they will waive the fee, good news for me.

oh! I shall drink to that Guiness DrinkGuiness DrinkGuiness Drink

nice one Jono!Applaud SmileyApplaud SmileyB-)

 

[SPECIAL LOCATION]

going back to the original cooker point...

IMHO...

IF the cooker was a higher rating.. thus bigger cable & circuit fuse rating...

OR

if it was a single oven of a ring .. but now needs a dedicated circuit..

then yep I could see the cooker fitters recomendations...

But other than that...

sounds like a big rip off to me!?X(X( X(

 

[Andy™]

Already spoke to LABC about it, they say if i have paperwork to prove its for an assessment and 17th Ed they will waive the fee, good news for me.

waived the fee because its easier for them, but still a good result

 

[ianmacd]

Wish they had done that for me. The bloke said he didn't want to charge me the fee but had to. I guess it depends on the area.

Ian.