EICR codes

[K789]

Hello Guys.

I am John and new to this Group. I am an Electrical apprentice learning Electrical coding. Does anyone know what code I can give in this scenario. I can see a old fashioned toggle switch with line conductor exposed and recessed into the building fabrics so I gave C1. However, I am not very clear with the connections. It looks like for me neutral and line conductor swapped at switch 2. Any help would be much appreciated.

Regards,

John

 

[Fleeting]

Is this a real life scenario or an exam question.

 

[K789]

Is this a real life scenario or an exam

Is this a real life scenario or an exam question.

I am not sure fleeting. I got this from one of my friend (which he asked me to find me the fault). Regardless of anything, I am quite interested to know this

Is this a real life scenario or an exam question.

 

[K789]

Is this a real life scenario or an exam question.

I am not sure fleeting regarding where this picture comes from. I got this from one of my friend (which he asked me to find me the fault). Regardless of anything, I am quite interested to know this

 

[Fleeting]

The fact there is a black at the switch does not necessarily indicate a neutral conductor they are likely to be switch line conductors. It is difficult to see but there appears to be two incoming cables with a common red line through the three switches and two blacks and a red leaving the switches.

 

[K789]

Thank you Fleeting.

 

[binky]

I'm guessing that lot was behind a cover plate and not exposed to fingers as shown. In which case I'm not convinced it needs any code.

 

[kerching]

They are Rolls switches from late 50s early 60s. They are mounted onto a wooden back box and would/should have a cover plate on them....possibly white plastic


With all due respect what drew you to the conclusion that Line and Neutral had been swapped?

 

[Andy™]

I'm guessing that lot was behind a cover plate and not exposed to fingers as shown. In which case I'm not convinced it needs any code.

wait until you see his photo of all the inside of the consumer unit. thats got to be C1 having that copper busbar

 

[K789]

Evening Team,

Thanks for your suggestions.

No cover present as they scenario is pretty similar to the pictures. The switches are readily accessible.

Best Regards,

John

 

[K789]

They are Rolls switches from late 50s early 60s. They are mounted onto a wooden back box and would/should have a cover plate on them....possibly white plastic


With all due respect what drew you to the conclusion that Line and Neutral had been swapped?

Thank you very much, kerching. It just two different colour cable (Black and red) which is terminated into the rolls switch. Do you have any idea why the black and red wire has been terminated this way?

 

[Andy™]

Thank you very much, kerching. It just two different colour cable (Black and red) which is terminated into the rolls switch. Do you have any idea why the black and red wire has been terminated this way?

er... your doing an EICR, so presumably someone is paying for your services usingof knowledge / experience to determine if the electrical installation is safe for use or not.... and youre asking why a light switch is wired the way it is?!

 

[kerching]

Well if no cover exists then it ain't a C2

Black wire..
Switch wire?
Strappers?
Who knows

 

[K789]

Well if no cover exists then it ain't a C2

Black wire..
Switch wire?
Strappers?
Who knows

Thank you for the reply. very much appreciated.

 

[binky]

Evening Team,

Thanks for your suggestions.

No cover present as they scenario is pretty similar to the pictures. The switches are readily accessible.

Best Regards,

John

Looks like it had a cover, but if that is missing, then you have exposed live conductors due to poor cable stripping, in which case it's a C1 all day long.

 

[binky]

wait until you see his photo of all the inside of the consumer unit. thats got to be C1 having that copper busbar

Not seen one of those for a long time.

 

[Andy™]

thinkin it may be a crabtree C50 board...

 

[kerching]

thinkin it may be a crabtree C50 board...

Nah
4 way Wylex brown metal crackle finish...possibly with an Extenso unit fitted. Now that is dating me

 

[Phoenix]

Was there mutiple colours of the metal crackle finish? I can picture boards with a grey/silver crackle finish before they went to painted battlehship grey and now you say it, I'm sure I remember darker crackle ones, I think, but I'd just assumed they were variations/dirty.

And nah, got to be a cast iron Bill rewireable with missing busbar shroud, many missing wax dots and a cracked carrier or two, most with 2.5mm copper in them...

 

[kerching]

Dark brown, rough to the touch, finish
Then the new and more familiar Smooth Hammerite type finish
Then Battleship Grey