Electrical Installation Condition Report

[Ash]

So following the new amendment, I updated my certs and have already starting using them.

I for one welcome this new PIR,

It's sped me up incredibly because it's like have a checklist to go through and gives you a structure on what to inspect.

Also, when I coded undersized earthing, no RCDs, I have them in a nice checklist so it looks like it's not some made up bulls**t. But also when I code trivial stuff like lack of switch-line identification, that's also there on the checklist. It really helps when I have to go through the results with the client.

So my opinion is you should all get your certs updated asap, because it makes PIRs that much better

 

[m4tty]

Do you buy the pads from elecsa?

 

[Ash]

Nah, made my own in Word

 

[gselectrical]

Does anybody know if Easycert's latest version includes the "electrical installation condition report"?

GS

 

[Sidewinder]

Not yet I don't think as everyone had to wait until the brb was published on the 1/7, thus it is only since then they will have been able to work on the updates, though I suspect that there will be a free upgrade?...

Just a guess?

 

[steptoe]

are you actually allowed to use a different cert as to the model form?

 

[Sidewinder]

The NIC ones are different Steps

 

[steptoe]

I know SW, but they are based on the model form, I use NIC ones, and yes, they do have extra stuff on them.

just wondering as the amd1 isnt in force yet you need to be careful NOT to put stuff on your new forms that isnt a requirement until Jan.

 

[Sidewinder]

True, my AE said Tuesday (I may have put Wed, in another post but it was Tue!) that I am free to use Amd1 from 1/7/11,which I did not know, but it is not compulsory until 1/1/12, which I knew.

 

[steptoe]

oh, so you can use it now then,?

or is that just his opinion?

I havent read it yet, but would it be possible to install something that complies with AMD1 but wouldnt comply with the regs as they stand?

who then would be liable? you cant put down

'this installation complies with BS7671 -2008 amd 2012.'

 

[Andy™]

oh, so you can use it now then,?or is that just his opinion?

I havent read it yet, but would it be possible to install something that complies with AMD1 but wouldnt comply with the regs as they stand?

who then would be liable? you cant put down

'this installation complies with BS7671 -2008 amd 2012.'

probably the same as when 17th came in - you could use either for 6 month

 

[Ash]

you have to write on the cert which BS7671 you're following every time you fill one out

 

[Doc Hudson]

There is normally a transition period to allow for jobs already quoted or in progress before a new amendment becomes obligatory. I was under the impression that once a new issue or amendment is published work can be done to the new standard immediately. However in practice, until electricians have seen and digested any new regs, they do not normally plan work to a standard they are not yet familiar with. As Ash says the declaration box should be completed with the date and amendments that thew work complies to.

Doc H.

 

[mikep]

Anyone got a list of the updates yet !!

Is it the big green book Amendment 1 2011 as I will order it if that's the right one.

 

[steptoe]

There is normally a transition period to allow for jobs already quoted or in progress before a new amendment becomes obligatory. I was under the impression that once a new issue or amendment is published work can be done to the new standard immediately. However in practice, until electricians have seen and digested any new regs, they do not normally plan work to a standard they are not yet familiar with. As Ash says the declaration box should be completed with the date and amendments that thew work complies to.Doc H.

but when does this new amd come into force?

is it BS7671-2008 amd 2011 or 2012 ?

 

[Sidewinder]

Anyone got a list of the updates yet !!Is it the big green book Amendment 1 2011 as I will order it if that's the right one.

mike,

There are just loads of changes!

Yes the bgb is the new amendment: BS7671:2008 Amendment 1 2011.

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but when does this new amd come into force?is it BS7671-2008 amd 2011 or 2012 ?

IET Wiring Regulations 17th Edition (BS 7671:2008 incorporating amendment no 1:2011) - IET Electrical

 

[steptoe]

thanks SW,

so it can officially be used now, as amd 2011.

I know a guy doing his 2391 this sept, will that be based on the amd1 or be the normal 7671 17th.?

 

[mikep]

Sidewinder

Hope that was 2011 instead of 2001 !!!

****** I'm at it noow

 

[Sidewinder]

Dunno mate as far as 2391 I would guess at this stage the brb, it will tale C&G & the trainers time to update the courses.

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SidewinderHope that was 2011 instead of 2001 !!!

****** I'm at it noow

Don't know what you mean mate! :^OO) :innocent :innocent

 

[mikep]

Just ordered from amazon for