Electrician failed to provide EIC

[SolarChris]

I complained to NICEIC who told him to supply the EIC which he did do. It only took about 18months!

 

[Murdoch]

I complained to NICEIC who told him to supply the EIC which he did do. It only took about 18months!

Good on you for reporting the muppet

And for updating us

 

[Andy™]

biggest surprise is NICEIC actually doing something

 

[kerching]

I note you say he 'was able to inspect/see' the cables that you installed, but did he?

Just curious

 

[Murdoch]

biggest surprise is NICEIC actually doing something

Maybe finally these schemes are seeing their members retire, or just not bother to renew - so maybe their days are numbered

 

[mainline]

These works fall under Part P of the Building Regulations which is a statutory document. Within Part P there is a requirement to supply certification to the client.

The homeowner should have asked before the work started to ensure there was going to be certification.

 

[Murdoch]

The homeowner should have asked before the work started to ensure there was going to be certification.

Hiding behind that old wives tale ?

 

[mainline]

Hiding behind that old wives tale ?

Wives tale ?
I think it's far wiser to discuss before work begins, rather than end up like the Op has had to deal with.

 

[SPECIAL LOCATION]

biggest surprise is NICEIC actually doing something

I think it all boils down to how easy it is to prove...??

e.g. If a contractor claims to be a member and is miss-using their logo, its quite easy to prove and prosecute..

Or..
If a customer has a quote and/or invoice with the contractors name detailing some works done that would require an electrical certificate and/or Part-P notification issued...

Its quite easy to ask the contractor to show evidence of all appropriate certificate(s) if they have already issued it,
or if not to issue one!

It's much easier than where no paperwork, (Quote or invoice etc.), at all has been issued, i.e. no evidence of who did what etc..
And assuming the contractor is not looking for repeat work, then its very easy to deny any responsibility for anything!!

 

[SPECIAL LOCATION]

These works fall under Part P of the Building Regulations which is a statutory document. Within Part P there is a requirement to supply certification to the client.

The homeowner should have asked before the work started to ensure there was going to be certification.

This reminds me of a comment by one of our previous members 'Steptoe'... something along the lines of...

Part-P is a building regulation...
Failure to comply with building regulations involves prosecution of the homeowner NOT the contractor...
Hence the homeowner needs to ensure they have all correct paperwork to pass-the-buck onto the contractor if things do go pear-shaped!!

i.e. it is the customers responsibility to jump through the Part-P hoops, no need for electricians to do anything other than issue their BS7671 certificates if required!!!

 

[Andy™]

If a customer has a quote and/or invoice with the contractors name detailing some works done that would require an electrical certificate and/or Part-P notification issued...

having a quote means nothing, just they they priced it. doesn't mean they done the work. if they've got an invoice then it yes it would make it far easier to ask where the EIC etc is

 

[Andy™]

This reminds me of a comment by one of our previous members 'Steptoe'... something along the lines of...

Part-P is a building regulation...
Failure to comply with building regulations involves prosecution of the homeowner NOT the contractor...
Hence the homeowner needs to ensure they have all correct paperwork to pass-the-buck onto the contractor if things do go pear-shaped!!

i.e. it is the customers responsibility to jump through the Part-P hoops, no need for electricians to do anything other than issue their BS7671 certificates if required!!!

yep, building regs compliance is with the home owner, not the contractor. the contractor can notify it on the homeowners behalf, but legally they don't have to. EIC still required for 7671 compliance though but since 7671 isn't a legal document then not doing so isn't illegal