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HappyHippyDad

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Has anyone seen the eFIXX video clip about the new Part F regulations regarding ventilation?

Installing a fan is now notifiable, plus you have to go on a course, plus you have to be assessed on this each year, on top of your normal assessment, costing a few hundred pounds.

Am I understanding this all correctly? Bloody crazy.

https://www.google.com/search?q=electricians+furious+over&client=ms-android-samsung-ss&sca_esv=992c006e90961474&sxsrf=ADLYWILkj2tjg4YJVXjYfT8YuvOVBPrkPw:1729110049731&ei=ISAQZ5eLLI6L9u8PicKv2QU&oq=electricians+furious+over&gs_lp=EhNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwIhllbGVjdHJpY2lhbnMgZnVyaW91cyBvdmVyMgUQIRigATIFECEYoAFIg39QzwZYgXlwAngBkAEAmAGJBKABiiuqAQo1LjI5LjQtMS4xuAEDyAEA-AEBmAIcoALxHqgCD8ICChAAGLADGNYEGEfCAgQQIxgnwgILEAAYgAQYkQIYigXCAgoQABiABBgUGIcCwgIFEAAYgATCAgcQIxgnGOoCwgINEC4Y0QMYxwEYJxjqAsICBxAuGCcY6gLCAgoQIxiABBgnGIoFwgIKEAAYgAQYQxiKBcICEBAuGIAEGEMYxwEYigUYrwHCAggQABiABBixA8ICCxAuGIAEGLEDGIMBwgIOEAAYgAQYkQIYyQMYigXCAgsQABiABBiSAxiKBcICCxAAGIAEGLEDGMkDwgILEAAYgAQYsQMYgwHCAg4QABiABBixAxiDARjJA8ICBhAAGBYYHsICCBAAGBYYChgewgIFECEYnwXCAgcQIRigARgKmAMUiAYBkAYIkgcINC4yMy40LTGgB4K5AQ&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp
 
erm... interesting link...

But on the governments approved document listing the valid part F Ventilation document is still the one from 15 June 2022.
https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/approved-documents

Which is the list I would be referencing regarding any building regulations compliance guidance.

Where part F Volume 1 Applies to dwellings..
With free PDF downloads are available if you have any doubts about what you need to do to comply with building regs
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/61deba42d3bf7f054fcc243d/ADF1.pdf
 
And thats why I wont be installing Fans anymore. Im not paying for a course for something I only fit 3 or 4 times a year and very rarely from new. Its normally replacement units that have failed.

Building control never inspect these things, Tenants in rental properties turn them off because they are too noisy. Nope just something else now added to my I dont install list. Pretty soon Ill only be installing replacement accessory fronts :)
 
I'm still confused by this, Efixx do a video about saying very vaguely that it's all notifiable, but I have tried to find the exact wording in Parf F but I can't.
also, it's not a new thing, Part F updated in 2021 and enforced as of 2022. why are we only hearing about it now? I don't remember my NAPIT assessor asking me if I need to notify fan installs on my last visit, you'd think the schemes would have jumped on it to get an extra subscription fee out of us
 
Just had a look through the NAPIT webinars , I notice a building regs one they did in August 2023, the section on part F is around 20 mins into it but is pretty basic, just before 23 minutes they answer the question of how do you notify a fan install to BC and in summary they just say "not really needed for single bathroom fans but will be required for more complicated systems"
 
Basically, I'm going to ignore it for now.
If I get pulled up on it with a building inspector, or on an assessment, I'll make a decision then if it's worth still fitting them.
 
How long can this endless stream of regulation, courses and expiring certs go on before it drives people away from the industry because too many organisations believe they are entitled to an ever increasing slice of your time and profits
 
UNG said:
How long can this endless stream of regulation, courses and expiring certs go on before it drives people away from the industry because too many organisations believe they are entitled to an ever increasing slice of your time and profits
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I can understand some form if certification for new build passive houses, but never a bathroom fan. The trouble with all the registration bodies is they are all quangos. As such they are businesses, and profit is their motivation
 
I sent Envirovent a message about their training course last week when I watched the Efixx video, it's taken until today to get a reply about the course and they are fully booked till May. they've also bumped the price up by £50

"The NIC EIC course is run from our training facility based in Harrogate, the cost of the course is £250 +VAT person, lunch and parking are provided free of charge.
Please see list of dates below;

27th – 28th January 2025 - FULLY BOOKED
24th – 25th February 2025 – FULLY BOOKED
10th – 11th March 2025 – FULLY BOOKED
7th – 8th April 2025 – FULLY BOOKED
28th – 29th April 2025 – FULLY BOOKED
19th – 20th May 2025
2nd – 3rd June 2025 – FULLY BOOKED
16th – 17th June 2025
7th – 8th July 2025
21st – 22nd July 2025
11th – 12th August 2025
18th -19th August 2025
15th – 16th September 2025
29th – 30th September 2025
13th – 14th October 2025
27th – 28th October 2025
10th – 11th November 2025
8th – 9th December 2025"
 
ExArmy said:
I sent Envirovent a message about their training course last week when I watched the Efixx video, it's taken until today to get a reply about the course and they are fully booked till May. they've also bumped the price up by £50

"The NIC EIC course is run from our training facility based in Harrogate, the cost of the course is £250 +VAT person, lunch and parking are provided free of charge.
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At £250 + VAT the free lunch and parking is very generous of them
 
And people wonder why so my installations are carp these days. Over regulation, nobody checking on standards and the pointless CPS,s taking our money

Thankfully none of this nonsense for me 😉
 

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