Ezybond Clips

[OnOff]

Are these clips "acceptable" for use - I seem to remember something about them being not. My plumbing consists of copper pipe with plastic push fit connectors - lots of joints! Reading the NICEIC Earthing & Bonding Snags & Solutions, bonding every joint seems the proper way to go. Figured this would be quick and easy as opposed to using Tenbys,

Ezybond Pipe Earth Clamps - 15mm - QVS Electrical Supplies | Electrical Wholesaler

 

[Electroglow]

Bond every joint ??? R u joking? Say a house had 20 joints that would be 20 10mm runs ?

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

No, that would be a minimum of 40. Where about in the book did the OP see that every plastic joint needed bonding ?

 

[batty]

I hate plastic pipe and joints.

 

[ProDave]

Me too

I'm a soldered copper man.

 

[OnOff]

No, that would be a minimum of 40. Where about in the book did the OP see that every plastic joint needed bonding ?

Snag 48 Bonding Of Metal Pipework in the book (NICEIC Snags & Solutions Part 1 Earthing and Bonding). Goes on about ensuring electrical continuity between joined sections of pipe. And it's well over 20 joints I may have to do. Previous owner was worried about fire as the pipework in question was installed years later within / near bone dry woodwork (confined spaces etc) to add radiators upstairs. Also applies to an en suite with shower up there. Only applies to a few joints on the mains water pipe. Just thought these clips would be quicker. At least it will only be in 4mm on most of them!

 

[Andy™]

if a section of copper pipe between 2 plastic fittings is not extraneous, then there is no requirement to bond it, regardless of what NICEIC say

you could have a property with plastic gas & water services, full copper inside and not need to bond anything

 

[Manator]

Bonding any pipe can introduce a potential where there was none previously. Continuity testing will tell you should any pipe need bonding. The NICEIC and any other body will confirm that if any pipe is bonded, you should confirm continuity of this bond each side of any joint, this can be observed in older metal conduit and metal trunking cable management systems, and in large plant rooms were bonding between pumps, joints and controls are bonded each side of the said joints. There will always be a slight continuity in the flow of the liquid going down the pipe, and there have been many research papers published about this, but for the purpose of our work is really far too deep to get into any detail. I would always say, test and test again, if it needs it, bond it, if not leave it alone.

 

[Doc Hudson]

Snag 48 Bonding Of Metal Pipework in the book (NICEIC Snags & Solutions Part 1 Earthing and Bonding). Goes on about ensuring electrical continuity between joined sections of pipe. And it's well over 20 joints I may have to do. Previous owner was worried about fire as the pipework in question was installed years later within / near bone dry woodwork (confined spaces etc) to add radiators upstairs. Also applies to an en suite with shower up there. Only applies to a few joints on the mains water pipe. Just thought these clips would be quicker. At least it will only be in 4mm on most of them!

The Snag 48 only refers to pipes that are being used as a protective conductor. Is this a job where you are installing a new CU that will be fully RCD protected, in which case there may be even less requirement for some supplementary bonding than a 16th edition installation? I am inclined to think you are doing unnecessary work there onoff. However I understand that these ezybond clips are acceptable for terminating wires to pipes when bonding is required.

Doc H.