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[Knight]

Hello people,

Just dropped in to say Hi and was wondering if anyone has had any experience with a company call "New Career Skills", been thinking about taking course in electrics for a while and moving away from the world of IT just need to be sure with these guys as

 

[a1]

Hello Knight,

Welcome to the forum, It's good to have you on-board.

While I have no experience of that company, I will ONLY recommend the college route.

HTH

Admin.

 

[Knight]

There is not much in my area in the way of adult eletrical courses and the company i'm in at the moment is moving in a new direction i cannot go (which is alot of cellular programming very boring) which is put time frame on doing something else, as i do not have the proof on paper with what i know and can do i will end working at tescos there is also a million people out there with the proof that they could do my current job but while i still earning enough i want to try and learn electrics and head down the eletrical domestic installer route, so i fount this forum in the hope to find out what is needed and what happen's on this type of job and the thought process involved in doing the day to day tasks of an eletrical domestic installer.

So in short i'm trying to find out if this is the best move for me before putting a

 

[ianmacd]

Welcome aboard Knight.

The general feeling on here is that doing a college course is better as it gives you time to absorbe information and will teach you things you may not need to know for doing domestic. The course that Admin is refering to is currently the 2330. This course is available from the 'boot camp' type places over 16 or so weeks but may cost more than your

 

[Knight]

None, this is why i'm trying to find as much as i can before committing to anything.

 

[Doc Hudson]

Hello people,Just dropped in to say Hi and was wondering if anyone has had any experience with a company call "New Career Skills", been thinking about taking course in electrics for a while and moving away from the world of IT just need to be sure with these guys as

 

[ianmacd]

None, this is why i'm trying to find as much as i can before committing to anything.

In that case I would strongly advise against doing any of the 'part p' courses on offer as they need to cover a lot of areas in a few weeks so move very fast and without the background foundation you may find it too overwelming.

I understand your desire to get 'up and running' as quick as possible but you could drop thousands on a course and then come out of it without the knowledge/experience needed to work.

While Part P scheme providers will take these qualifications as part proof, they will still want to assess some of your work prior to accepting you.

 

[Knight]

Ok i don't have the paper work with me but from memory it includes the following,

Two city & gulids, part p, first aid, over a maxium period of 18 months with four five day praticle sessions, tutor access via web phone or a drive down to one of there centers if i get really stuck, all my therory work is assessed as i go also get assessed before each exam a second free resit on the exams should i fail first time and complete tool kit to get started. They also say that they will find me work after i complete this, my uncle seems to think that this most likely will be site work?

http://www.newcareerskills.co.uk/electrician-courses.htm

These guy's seem well established as they are part of a much lager company.

I'm very comfortable using tool's and normally pick up most things if i do it enough, it's just that sparky daily job rountine is not some thing easily fount on the net.

Forgot to add that i have a few friends who are in a slightly differnt field but they know electronics so i figure that they might be a good re-source of information.

 

[Knight]

See it all sound's good but the thing i have to keep in mind is that this is a sales pitch, what i'm trying to do is work out if i can do this in 18 months?

But what i have put above is all covered by one cost no extras

 

[Doc Hudson]

Had a brief look at their website, some of their statistics about the "shortage of electricians" surprises me. Not sure where they get the figures from, I would be interested to hear from others if they consider any of these figures accurate?

http://www.newcareerskills.co.uk/electrician-skills-shortage-electrical.htm

I know we have several members struggling to find companies willing to take them on even as free labour for hands on experience. A lot of 'site' electrical work mentioned in point 6 is done by the famous 'Polish worker'. I am not saying there is no work out there but I don't think it is as abundant as implied by the website advertising. We have had a lot of factory closures over recent years with many qualified works electricians entering the marketplace.

Doc H.

 

[Knight]

. I am not saying there is no work out there but I don't think it is as abundant as implied by the website advertising. We have had a lot of factory closures over recent years with many qualified works electricians entering the marketplace.Doc H.

And that's what i have been thinking, there site may not be upto date with today's current climate.

However i have two kitchen fitters and some one who runs a team refurbishing houses working in my famliy so getting small jobs provided i know what i'm doing is not an issue, there is also small jobs within famliy and friends although pay would be miniumal it's the spin off to others and i was hoping going off recomendation and word of mouth from there?

Just had a baby so the other half is not working so i have to be sure i can do and cope with this sort of work.

 

[Doc Hudson]

What existing qualifications do you have Knight? Despite some of the sales pitch, often these quick Part P domestic courses are more geared toward people who already have either partial knowledge or experience but no qualifications or expired qualification to earlier versions of BS7671 regulations. You need a reasonable understanding of maths and physics for the electrical science side of things, as well as the practical hand tools skills.

Doc H.

 

[a1]

Forgot to add that i have a few friends who are in a slightly differnt field but they know electronics so i figure that they might be a good re-source of information.

I wouldn't worry about that. We are re-knowned worldwide for helpling.

 

[a1]

See it all sound's good but the thing i have to keep in mind is that this is a sales pitch, what i'm trying to do is work out if i can do this in 18 months?But what i have put above is all covered by one cost no extras

 

[Doc Hudson]

And that's what i have been thinking, there site may not be upto date with today's current climate.However i have two kitchen fitters and some one who runs a team refurbishing houses working in my famliy so getting small jobs provided i know what i'm doing is not an issue, there is also small jobs within famliy and friends although pay would be miniumal it's the spin off to others and i was hoping going off recomendation and word of mouth from there?

Just had a baby so the other half is not working so i have to be sure i can do and cope with this sort of work.

That is a big positive point, the sort of contacts you need to get your foot in the door and help establish yourself. Either way the first few years of self employment is always very hard work, even when already qualified, experienced with all the tools & gear.

Doc H.

 

[Knight]

I'm thinking of trying for a salary based job to start off with just to get teh experinece and to have another sparky there should i F**K up or get stuck.

Well i will keep loooking and having a serious think before committing, if i go for it i will keep a dairy and log it on here, give others somthing i fount hard to find.

 

[Knight]

Got some good news, just offered a sparky (friend of an uncle type thing) free labour for exchange of information and he is interested

 

[ianmacd]

Thats good so you will get some on tools experience. Try not to pick up any bad habbits though .

 

[Knight]

Well if we turn upto a job and he scratches his ar*e sits down and opens a can of special brew i will call a taxi :coat lol

 

[batty]

Welcome to the forum Knight as others have said college is best route, I have done all my training evening classes and will always do it that route. I always worry that any company says they can guarantee you a job i would want that in writing. Good luck if you choose this career.