House Rewire - Satellite Tv & Data Outlets

[burtoninlondon]

Hello,

I am planning my house rewire and I am unsure what I need to do regarding satellite TV outlets and data outlets.

I currently have:

- Sky cables enter house and terminate in back of Sky box in living room (not via a wall outlet) ;

- Sky wifi router connected into phone outlet in hallway next to front door;

- Telephone connects to phone outlet in hallway next to front door.

I want to:

- Move the Sky cables to another room (main living room) terminating in a TV outlet;

- Add additional TV outlets in the kitchen, and upstairs bedrooms;

- Keep the main phone point in the hallway;

- Add a phone point/broadband connection for Sky box adjacent to relocated TV outlet in main living room;

- Add a second phone point in the study room;

- Add a hard-wired cat5 connection between the Sky wifi router and the study room (for short term computer connection and for future connection of secondary wifi router upstairs as wifi coverage is weak due to thick walls and relatively learned distance from Sky wifi router).

What do I need to do this? Is it as straight forward as installing a splitter to split the incoming Sky cables into the number I need for the various rooms? As for the data connection to the study is this just a simple cat5 connection from the back of the Sky wifi router to an outlet in the study?

Your help is greatly appreciated.

Neil

 

[Manator]

I do not know how they do it in houses, however when I have done this on a commercial basis I have done thus.

All data cables are directed to one position, at this position the telephone and router are installed alongside an Ethernet switch. All the cat 5 or cat 6 cables are terminated into a patch panel and linked to the switch, however you could just connect to the switch directly.

Everything can be distributed over cat 5 or 6 cable, TV, Phone or data. It is possible to get RJ45 to HDMI adaptors for instance, and also RJ45 to phone connectors. Doing it this way you can pick and choose which cable will do what and network all of them if required. I am not sure how Sky works as for splitting as I have never done it, I am sure some of our members will be along to fill in any gaps for me.

 

[MeFil]

You've got a lot of options at this point and one chance to install and hide any cables you may need for the forseeable future. So my advice would be to plan carefully and try to cover as many bases as you can (afford)

Decide on a central point for all of your wiring to go back to. Possibly a cupboard. Make sure you have enough power points for any equipment you may need....hubs, routers, sky boxes...etc...

In domestic I would run 2 x cat 5/6 to every point you want.

run at least 2 cat 5 to your main media centre...prob 4. Stb...sky...games consolez..etc

run a pair of cat 5 to every television location....future tv distribution or smart tv's

run a coax to every tv point from your hub

run a coax from hub to tv aerial

run a pair of coax cables from your media centre to the sky dish...maybe a pair from your sky dish to the wiring centre.

cat 5 point for every fixed computer....(prob 2)

personally, I would wire cat 5 to every room ...that way you can use your building wiring for telephone, data, tv (future)

 

[steptoe]

shotgun everything,

at least,

and as MeFil says, 4 to media centre etc,

if you think you need one point, run in 2, 

 

[ProDave]

Just to elaborate, you can't split satellite cables.

So it has to be one (or 2) feeds per satellite box direct to the dish.

Consider an octo LNB (8 outputs) and feed satellite cables to everywhere you can think you might want a tv (and a few other places as well)

 

[Steve3948]

Or a Multi Switch for Sat with 5 (1-4 Sat and 5 Aerial) In and 8,16,24,32 out.

Needs for best results 80cm dish with quatro LNB.

 

[Sharpend]

+1 to that Steve

 

[ProDave]

But most people get stuck with multiswitches, the first hurdle being how to align a dish with a quatro LNB on it?

 

[Bruspark]

While you can distribute HDTV from the equipment room/cabinet/bunker/sweatbox over Cat5 to any other room where it might be viewed (and take IR control signals back over the same Cat5 or over a simple coax connection) the price of a number of full HD HDMI over Cat5 transmitter-receiver units is a bit eye watering (£150+ each).

So unless you can present that price x 4 or 5 TV's as a bargain and still make a mark-up then consider instead that most HDMI devices continue to work over up to 20m of cable so running coax and HDMI along with 3 cables of Cat 5 or 6 for web access /future use from the equipment room DIRECT to the most likely viewing locations is likely to save a fortune if HDMI in those locations that is all that is actually ever required.

 

[burtoninlondon]

Folks, many thanks for all of your help, it has made me think about a few things.

I think I'm going to install a home data network and a separate wireless home audio system such as sonos.

Thanks again,

Neil

 

[steptoe]

But most people get stuck with multiswitches, the first hurdle being how to align a dish with a quatro LNB on it?

I didnt know there was an issue,

I changed my single LNB to a quad one and it just worked, was I just lucky?

I was also lucky when I put my dish up BTW, I didnt even need to get the signal meter out, [cheapo analogue job   ]

I had a guess at next doors dish position and I had a picture, 

 

[Steve3948]

Steps, Quatro and Quad are not the same.

Quatro have 2 X Veritcal and 2 X Horizontal line feeds.

 

[steptoe]

Steps, Quatro and Quad are not the same.

Quatro have 2 X Veritcal and 2 X Horizontal line feeds.

I know even less now,  :C

ah, so a quad one simply has 4 seperate feeds,

but a quattro has 2 seperate feeds on each orientation?  so can be used for a massive splitter box thingie?

is that right?

this is probably why I dont get too involved in sat or aerial installs,,,,,,,,