****in kitchen fitter come builder.

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Looked at a small job lastweek, just extend kitchen ringmain to include 4x sso's + 3x fcu's for pelmet lights & hood & add rcd next to old cu for extended circuit. Connect new hob & oven to existing circuit.

The property owners were quoted

 
That cannot happen M 'cos no one can do special location work without being registerd for Part P Wet Fish;)

Bloody cheeky bleeda if you ask me ,"you can drop your price 'cos I've done half of your work"

I'd have walked TBH And my M8 would have , definitely.

 
It does make you cross. Doing cu change a few weeks back had done a few jobs in past for customer they wanted me to fit chrome sockets in new kitchen but refused as they had old metalclad wylex board with no Rcd protection and suggested they had new one. They had had two way board with Rcd fitted by kitchen fitters electrician for oven and hob at time of new kitchen but no replacred old board. Anyway they wanted me to change cu at later date which I did. A relation had fitted sockets in kitchen for them and when testing found four were reverse polarity which I assume was because he found cables were to short so sorted this out for them but found one had been spured of twice once for dishwasher and again for cooker hood but this was wired in 1.0mm tw/e as he could not get four 2.5 in socket. This was done by kitchen fitter and not electrician supplied by b&q. Whats the point of part p when you have these idiots doing work like this.

 
by far our biggest PITA at work is sodding currys/comet etc "electricians" refusing to connect cookers and telling tenants that their cooker point is illegal. drives us potty.

 
by far our biggest PITA at work is sodding currys/comet etc "electricians" refusing to connect cookers and telling tenants that their cooker point is illegal. drives us potty.
generally because their plug in meter says there is no earth because its TT....

 
its usually down to position, if the isolator is too close or above the cooker then they say this is illegal and refuse to connect the cooker. this may be the case on new installs but they say it about installations upto 40-50 years old.

 
its usually down to position, if the isolator is too close or above the cooker then they say this is illegal and refuse to connect the cooker. this may be the case on new installs but they say it about installations upto 40-50 years old.
Why is it illegal?

 
Quite a lot of incorrect and excessive use of the word illegal in this thread!

 
They always come out with the old "it's illegal" thing... what they really mean is that they are not instructed/authorised/insured to connect to anything but a cooker connection outlet...

but the worst thing about it is that they seem to scare the cusomers and make it very difficult for us..

When they say that the "installers" had said that it's illegal, I just point out that they are really delivery drivers with a little bit of extra training,,, not an electrician!!

 
i'm not claiming its illegal just quoting :)

and we are also talking about about installations using CCU but where the isolator is directly above the cooker(which is what i have been told by our electrical manager is now a no no but was fine in the past hence old installations being fine). its quite regular for us.

 
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