In The Sun Today

M107 · Jan 3, 2013

"Barmy rules demanding council approval for simple household electrical jobs are to be scrapped.

DIY fans are billed an average of £240 by building control officials each time they fit a kitchen socket or a new security light.

The rules will be axed in April as part of the government red tape bonfire.

Riskier jobs like work near baths and showers or house rewiring will still need a council ok.

Communities minister Don Foster said "Many people hoping to improve home electrics are put off by the bureaucratic costs. This will prevent that".

But he admitted: "A lot of men will lose an excuse for not getting on with their list of jobs". "

Some ***** reporting there, no investigation of the Pee facts....how many diyers do you know notify work of any kind?............an extra socket in the kitchen or a security light fitted are not as risky as other electrical work near a bath/shower/rewire :Applaud :slap if it isn't done right its a risk full stop, no matter how small the job.

The part P tax is here to stay for us tradesmen, but now as a rejigged effort so it does not include the work most commonly undertaken & C***** up by DIYers.............Trading sparks bend over & take a length from Mr Foster.

betty swollocks · Jan 3, 2013

Had this sent which says

Some minor works outdoors or in kitchens will be exempt from requiring notification.

New Approved Document P

Section 2: Notifiable work

The amount of work that must be notified is reduced, with minor alteration work in kitchens and outdoors now excluded (although it must comply with BS7671)

The information about what must be notified is more clearly presented (describing what must be notified rather than just listing what is exempt)

Section 3: Certification, inspection and testing

A provision is made for the introduction of third party certification (this will not be available until the mechanism for approving individuals to carry out certification is agreed and a form of condition report suitable for this purpose is developed)

ProDave · Jan 3, 2013

This part pee stuff does seem to miss the target.

DIYer's don't seem to care on the whole.

But Electricians are "taxed" so they can join in.

A mate of mine darn sarf who I know is a capable chap, rewired his bungallow years ago. But now he's having a loft conversion, and begrudges paying an electrician to do the work "because he can't" Surely if he's paying building control to supervise the structural work involved with a loft conversion, then PArt P of the building regulations should be included in his building control fee that he is already paying. Are you really telling me in that situation you would pay one fee for building regs part A-O and a separate fee for part P? If so then that's madness.

Not that I know a lot about Part Pee. :coat

Evans Electric · Jan 3, 2013

Oh and why don't you know a lot about Part Pee then Dave ? :innocent

OnOff · Jan 3, 2013

ProDave said:
This part pee stuff does seem to miss the target.
DIYer's don't seem to care on the whole.

But Electricians are "taxed" so they can join in.

A mate of mine darn sarf who I know is a capable chap, rewired his bungallow years ago. But now he's having a loft conversion, and begrudges paying an electrician to do the work "because he can't" Surely if he's paying building control to supervise the structural work involved with a loft conversion, then PArt P of the building regulations should be included in his building control fee that he is already paying. Are you really telling me in that situation you would pay one fee for building regs part A-O and a separate fee for part P? If so then that's madness.

Not that I know a lot about Part Pee. :coat

I'm pretty sure that if the electrical works forms part of the bigger extension works the he need only pay the one notification fee. I have heard of it done this way before. Furthermore, and it does depend on the council, but if he can prove his competency / complete the certs then he may be able to do the work himself with the council obliged to inspect at no extra cost for the electrical part. Another mad Part P thing is the bit that allows different councils to decide on competency and have their own "take" on it.