Looks Nice........from The Outside!

[OnOff]

Nice looking extractor:

Pity about the c**t who wired it in, particularly novel insulation and cable support method:

 

[Steve3948]

Cable comes from below then in the "safe zone" :-(

 

[Andy™]

well thats a change fromt he screw through teh cable

 

[OnOff]

Photo to follow when I peel the duct tape off of the flex to T&E "joint"...................I'm reckoning twisted together!

He's also made up what I can only describe as a "loom" out of a mix of yellow arctic cable white flex and upside down surface mount boxes........here's a taste:

 

[Sharpend]

Nice............

Tiles!

 

[OnOff]

Glad it's not just me who can see the multi tool coming out for those tiles!

 

[OnOff]

More shoddy electrical work or "how to ruin a quality kitchen". As you can see, nice units:

Switched FCU in cupboard for under cupboard light:

Fed from 2G socket "below" with twin brown 1.5:

That bit of grey sheathed twin brown comes out of the back box then loops up. dangling free in a cavity (not a wall cavity). Used to be a chimney breast sticking out into the roof about a foot. They've put plasterboard over the front so there's a cavity either side.

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

I had to investigate a bad shock received from an install like that. The cable had fallen onto the fan rotors so the case was live, but as its double insulated nothing happened until it was touched.

 

[kerching]

Somebody should start/manage a scheme where this sort of work should be checked and then notified to some enforcing body/authority.

On second thoughts that would never work.................or could it?

Nah.....not a fricking sniff! :coat

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

I find kitchen lighting wired like that on 40% of jobs/tests

 

[binky]

Somebody should start/manage a scheme where this sort of work should be checked and then notified to some enforcing body/authority.

On second thoughts that would never work.................or could it?

Nah.....not a fricking sniff! :coat

it might do with full support of sparkies, and a lot more policing. Divided we fall......

 

[ProDave]

That's some classy wiring [not] I just love the earth sleeving, that's where he can be bothered to use it. And the workmanship exudes quality bodge

I like the invisible grommets too. Where can I get some like that? They look so much nicer than those black things I've been using all these years.

But looking on the bright side, if there's a cavity, surely you can fish a new wire through rather than having to take a multitool to the tiles?

 

[OnOff]

It' s the sad old adage that electricity "can't be seen" I guess.

At first glance it's a nice, reasonably high spec kitchen. The kitchen socket wiring seems a combination of the original downstairs ring main (when there was just one) and some newer sockets. ALL fed from a 30A re-wireable - see the 4 reds? Belling out everything at the mo just to see what connects to what. Not forgetting the absence of grommets, lack of sleeving, non adherence to safe zones etc, etc. I can see most of it coming out tbh. Amazingly the bonding checks out though I can't see where it's connected to the gas and water (don't you just love laminate floors) so will run new to accessible points. Roll on the new cu!

Even where they have drilled through the carcasses there's no finesse at all, just whack the blunt drill through and let it burst out the other side.........whoops, wrong place......no problem we'll just cover it up with an FCU!

IMHO the sale of electrical gear should be limited to competent persons but not just that, take it a step further with traceability as to where it went - so it can't be bought and given to a mate..........who's a KITCHEN FITTER. A bit like ammunition is if you hold a Firearms Cert. Now there's a thought.....

 

[OnOff]

Post #1 above with the nice T&E to flex joint:

Assuming that T&E is a spur off the ring and that it checks out ok then to make good I was possibly thinking to simply put in an FCU and take the flex to that. So, again assuming that the T&E comes vertically up the wall i.e. directly below the current T&E exit point / future FCU position it will be in the accepted safe zone. However, playing evil's advocate does the fact that you have to take off the cover to even see the FCU come into the thinking here. Or is it a simple case that before you drill anywhere you should look from floor to ceiling on the wall, behind / in the backs of cupboards etc?

The cavity I referred to is only behind the LEFT hand cupboard in Post #7 above btw. Above the hob it's pretty much tiled plasterboard straight on the chimney breast behind. Thanks.

 

[Bacon]

Whats happened to the N in the socket looks like it's been hit with a rolling pin looks a bit flat with a bit of a bulge in it.

 

[OnOff]

Whats happened to the N in the socket looks like it's been hit with a rolling pin looks a bit flat with a bit of a bulge in it.

Might just be an optical illusion due to the carp phone camera. The other twin with the obligatory twin brown feed:

Will dig deeper into it all over the weekend & maybe take the better camera.

 

[Andy™]

Whats happened to the N in the socket looks like it's been hit with a rolling pin looks a bit flat with a bit of a bulge in it.

it looks like a shadow from the L to the RHS of it is making it look damage when its not

EDIT: its not a L to the RHS, its a N disguised as an L

 

[wozz]

With regards to the safe zone wouldn't a cable disappearing into a wall emerging higher up and a electrical appliance screwed to the wall create a safe zone of the same width ?

 

[Steve3948]

There is no such thing as a safe zone it's all in the mind !!!!!!

 

[chrisg1979]

How ironic that the sso has the tested sticker visible when the install clearly hasn't been lol.

Also loving the meter tail post haircut being used as the MEB!