You are being totally ripped off. I'm not taking glee in saying this but they are running rings round you.
Neutral at light switch?
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I'm assuming you are not living at the house at the moment otherwise you wouldn't have access issues.
Having read the whole of this it seems you are being taken for a ride with the cost of data installs, and probably the others too.
It seems "her" sole point of being there is to make enough money out of you to justify her being there! If she has no active role in the development then her wages are the cause of this seemingly high price.
Cat 5 is not that expensive TLC price £66 for 300 metres. Get quotes from a specialist data coms company and see how they compare.
As to the neutrals at switches, if you as the client requested it I would do it, providing it complies with wiring regs & building regs etc, which it would.
A reason for nuetrals at switches would be to future proof, this would be hard to argue against but she'll have a go!
Having read the whole of this it seems you are being taken for a ride with the cost of data installs, and probably the others too.
It seems "her" sole point of being there is to make enough money out of you to justify her being there! If she has no active role in the development then her wages are the cause of this seemingly high price.
Cat 5 is not that expensive TLC price £66 for 300 metres. Get quotes from a specialist data coms company and see how they compare.
As to the neutrals at switches, if you as the client requested it I would do it, providing it complies with wiring regs & building regs etc, which it would.
A reason for nuetrals at switches would be to future proof, this would be hard to argue against but she'll have a go!
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Thanks.
No, couldn't live there even if i wanted. It's nothing more than a building site; i'm doing a full internal refurb plus loft conversion and extensions.
I've just emailed her to say either she comes back with sensible pricing for additionals or i will bring in third parties. She will HATE that.
If i had the time, i'd don protective clothing and start hanging around on site just to piss them off.
The way things are going, i fear this may all end up in court. To top it all off, my architect/contract administrator couldn't stand the heat and bailed on Friday. She was hopeless, but still really dropped me in it by quitting.
The thing that gets me is i've never asked for a cheap price, just a fair one.
Sharpend
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You had an architect/contract administrator who quit? Not much of a contract administrator, surely it's her job to sort this on your behalf and generally at the outset?
I'd sue her for breach of contract, I'm guessing you had a contract with her?
I'd sue her for breach of contract, I'm guessing you had a contract with her?
Yep.
I was paying her per hour of uselessness.
She has hasn't exactly broken our contract tho as she didn't provide specific terms of engagement. But, luckily for me, that itself is a breach of architects code of conduct. So i will as a minimum complain to ARB/RIBA.
I was paying her per hour of uselessness.
She has hasn't exactly broken our contract tho as she didn't provide specific terms of engagement. But, luckily for me, that itself is a breach of architects code of conduct. So i will as a minimum complain to ARB/RIBA.
Sharpend
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I'm sorry to say Europa this sounds as though it's been a catalogue of errors from the outset.
I think a little bit of research is priceless, and empowers you to take control of the situation.
Depending on how much input you had whilst your contract administrator held the reigns really may give you room for controlled negotiation going forward?
I think a little bit of research is priceless, and empowers you to take control of the situation.
Depending on how much input you had whilst your contract administrator held the reigns really may give you room for controlled negotiation going forward?
the only thing I can see that you are asking for is that I would have any issue with is 45mm back boxes, (or whatever weird size they are this week)
I would deffo probably be charging more for those,
I get carrotted enough with 25mm boxes,
I would deffo probably be charging more for those,
I get carrotted enough with 25mm boxes,
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I'd spend a few pounds and then you can keep a closer on exactly what's going on, speak to contractors face to face.
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I'd spend a few pounds and then you can keep a closer on exactly what's going on, speak to contractors face to face.
Doc H.
LMAO. I think I'll do this next week and post a selfie on here!
Yep. I have no problem with that. But I think 1.5k should just about cover it, no?the only thing I can see that you are asking for is that I would have any issue with is 45mm back boxes, (or whatever weird size they are this week)
I would deffo probably be charging more for those,
I get carrotted enough with 25mm boxes,
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I do it for convenience. It means more of the work is at a nice working height at the switch and there is less fiddling to to at light fittings. Some modern light fittings have awful small, awkward junction boxes that are anywhere between hard and impossible to properly wire as "loop at light" And it's an absolute no brainer if you have downlights so save having junction boxes in the ceiling.
I am flexible enough though to take each room / light on it's own merits and I may wire loop at light if there is some compelling reason that makes it better in that situation.
Also outside lights ALWAYS fed from a loop at switch. Only a fol would wire an outside light as loop at light.
Well, TBF these days with some of the LED fittings with ridiculously short flexes on them or stupidly awkward terminal boxes I tend to end up with an adaptable box adjacent anyway so I have wired loop in at the lights. I tend to use the Wiska boxes so you get a nice decent size terminal strip in each box as well.
My upstairs lights,
So no loop at switch, or loop at light,
Some of the switches have neutrals at them for the light they feed, some don't,,,,
:C
So no loop at switch, or loop at light,
Some of the switches have neutrals at them for the light they feed, some don't,,,,
:C
Sharpend
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That's nice and tidy steps, like that idea for upstairs lighting.
Good old octopus wiring. All wiring returns to a central point.
Every one at work thought I was mad to do my house like that. Given the wife’s propensity to change her mind it was the next best thing to Tesla’s wireless power transmission.
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Steps, would it be an idea to connect the two CPC connector blocks together with a link? It seems odd to have them separated, there might be a closed loop of CPCs on one block.
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I think there is a link there, otherwise looks like there are more CPC's than cables from what I can count..
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Just checking
, did your nicey inspector inspect it?BTW, well done for keeping up the Christmas cheer with your festive signature pic :stuck-santa-smiley-emoticon:
Stroma actually,Just checking
BTW, well done for keeping up the Christmas cheer with your festive signature pic :stuck-santa-smiley-emoticon:
He said it'd been a long time since he'd seen the system used and was pleased someone was still using it and not being a sheep,
Quite a few not really standard things in my house, he even had a nosey at a circuit I had disconnected (as I wasn't sure giw he would feel about what I had done) ,
and he was interested why I'd done it the way I had, and saw no issues with any of the 'not normal' stuff that was done.
Unlike nicey, Stroma don't make their members follow their version of the regs, (I was a nicey QS for quite a while)
PS, I have no idea what my SIG pic is, :C
