New Fire Regs For Landlords

[martinxxxxxx]

http://www.cfoa.org.uk/19462

An estate agent wants me to fit combined co2/smokes.

My problem is that I like to fit Aico as I think they are the best, but they. Don't make combined ones and the write ups I have seen say the combined one give a lot of nuicience alarms.

Who else is thinking about this and cares to share their thoughts?

Martin

 

[M107]

Sure they want combined & not interlinked?

Aico (my choice as well) I use the rf bases to interlink smokes / heat & co2.

 

[binky]

tell estate agent it's a bad idea - they aren't experts! Only need Co alarm near boiler / gas fires / wood burners.

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

I seem to remember reading  its not advisable to even interlink Co2 to smokes as the occupiers wont know what type of alarm is sounding ?

 

[Blue Duck]

Is this trumpton again???

 

[Steve3948]

Nest Protect speaks to you telling you what the alarm is, and if you are not home alerts you on your mobile.

Not cheap though, but not much different if using radio bases.

 

[Andy™]

what is it with people calling them co2 alarms?!

 

[Sidewinder]

I thought the same Andy, a CO alarm would be much more use than a CO2 alarm!

 

[binky]

CO2 will be great if they stop breathing :slap

 

[Richard-the-Ninth]

I have to agree with Andy.

CO2 is carbon dioxide. It is what you find in fire extinguishers like

This one. 

Carbon dioxide is heaver than air, is colourless and odourless. And has some other great uses.

CO is carbon monoxide, it is a bi-product of some unburnt materials, it is the same density as air, is colourless and odourless and in tiny volumes causes headaches.

"Mon" means one, so carbon mon oxide is just CO

"Di" means two, so carbon di-oxide has two parts oxygen to ever one of carbon, so in other words it gets the number 2  so it is CO2.

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You can get combined interlinked CO  and smoke alarms BUT despite the fact they are interlinked if carbon monoxide is detected only the detector which detected the carbon monoxide sounds.  This is so you know where the carbon monoxide is. (Since unlike smoke you can't see or smell it) If interlinked  detectors detect smoke, then yes they will all sound.

 

[steptoe]

I have interlinked CO, and smoke, and heat detectors, AICO, they will ALL sound if any one detects, but, the detector one will flash red to denote it is the one that sounded the alarm.

 

[Richard-the-Ninth]

Sorry to ask, but did you test the CO alarm, and if so how did you test it?

 

[steptoe]

Sorry to ask, but did you test the CO alarm, and if so how did you test it?

Sorry to ask, but did you test the CO alarm, and if so how did you test it?

with canned  CO , sort of canned ,

my missus used to work for a multinational fire alarm company, I got a few bits from one of the engineers that I knew, actually knew him seperate to the wife even before I met her,

 

[Blue Duck]

Get the app?http://www.aico.co.uk/AudioLINK.html

We had some fun with that canned smoke.

We used to put up smokes for trumpton as a result we had hundreds of old Ones that no one knew what to do with so they all ended up in the office. If you phoned up you could hear them all chirping away on the background.

On your way out of the office quick spray under the door and chaos would ensue

turned out that doing the smokes cost twice as much as we were being payed, more if we couldn't park & some guys were getting the bus!

 

[kerching]

No climb products do,a can of CO test gas. Green can instead of blue

Just spraying

 

[ProDave]

New rules up here demand mains interlinked smokes and CO where appropriate.

TIP there's a guy on ebay selling BRK mains CO alarms for £20 

I fit them in the room that contains the boiler, and another in the living room if there's a gas fire or stove.

 

[Richard-the-Ninth]

I have interlinked CO, and smoke, and heat detectors, AICO, they will ALL sound if any one detects, but, the detector one will flash red to denote it is the one that sounded the alarm.

But it seems what you did not say (Although I did not ask) is that the CO alarms in question make a different series of beeps to indicate  CO has been detected not smoke.

Another brand I know of, if interlinked only the CO alarm the detected the CO will activate, but if a smoke alarm operates, the CO alarm will also sound.