Pir code please

[maccarooni]

Hi guys,

Checking a code on pir please.

4 I believe,

Your comments please.

100m/A RCD protected board in a kitchen

Ovens socket and lights all on this.

No 30m/A for sockets.

Some cables behind Metal backsplash.

Tnc-s arrangement

Many thanks macca

 

[Riggy]

I agree, code 4

 

[NozSpark]

+1

No RCD would be a code 4 so it can't be any higher than that

 

[maccarooni]

Also

Reading through the NIC pocket guide, even a single code 2 is deemed unsatisfactory,

I have a No local means of isolation for a hand dryer in a toilet block. I do however know that there is a change of cable within the wall from 2.5 T+E to 1.5 HR flex. Wall was recently tiled (looks about 2 yrs ago) and the same reply from everyone on site ( I, know nothing) now i would consider this to be a code 3,

Any thoughts please,

Macca

 

[PC Electrics]

Hi guys,Checking a code on pir please.

4 I believe,

Your comments please.

100m/A RCD protected board in a kitchen

Ovens socket and lights all on this.

No 30m/A for sockets.

Some cables behind Metal backsplash.

Tnc-s arrangement

Many thanks macca

Code 2 for sockets likely to be used for portable equipment outdoors, otherwise code 4 for the other sockets.

Code 4 for buried cables.

Code 4 for RCD main switch.

 

[NozSpark]

Also Reading through the NIC pocket guide, even a single code 2 is deemed unsatisfactory,

I have a No local means of isolation for a hand dryer in a toilet block. I do however know that there is a change of cable within the wall from 2.5 T+E to 1.5 HR flex. Wall was recently tiled (looks about 2 yrs ago) and the same reply from everyone on site ( I, know nothing) now i would consider this to be a code 3,

Any thoughts please,

Macca

Now that would depend on how the joint was done... if it's a maintenance free joint and it's DI then that would be OK, but if it's a bit of choc block wrapped in tape then that wouldn't be right

So yes a code 3... unless you have more info as above

 

[maccarooni]

Now that would depend on how the joint was done... if it's a maintenance free joint and it's DI then that would be OK, but if it's a bit of choc block wrapped in tape then that wouldn't be rightSo yes a code 3... unless you have more info as above

Unknown as tiled over so 3 it is.

Thanks

 

[PC Electrics]

Also Reading through the NIC pocket guide, even a single code 2 is deemed unsatisfactory,

I have a No local means of isolation for a hand dryer in a toilet block. I do however know that there is a change of cable within the wall from 2.5 T+E to 1.5 HR flex. Wall was recently tiled (looks about 2 yrs ago) and the same reply from everyone on site ( I, know nothing) now i would consider this to be a code 3,

Any thoughts please,

Macca

If you are reasonably certain that the change in cable is within the wall, then I'd give that a 2 because it doesn't really need investigating (you know it's there), it needs fixing. Also what is the OCPD for this 1.5 flex?

 

[PC Electrics]

Thinking about it, bet there was an FCU which is now missing and box tiled over.

 

[maccarooni]

Thinking about it, bet there was an FCU which is now missing and box tiled over.

Sorry forthe delayed reply, had to rush out to collect the kids,,,

OCPD ? sorry whats thats.......

I woulsd also presume that at one point there was an unswitched FCU at high level.

Its on a caravan park, so a switched one is generally a no-no as the kids always mess with them.

Macca

 

[Riggy]

OCPD = Over Current Protective Device

I agree this is important, if the mcb/fuse protects 1.5, I'd go for a 4 pesonally, otherwise 2.

 

[maccarooni]

OCPD = Over Current Protective DeviceI agree this is important, if the mcb/fuse protects 1.5, I'd go for a 4 pesonally, otherwise 2.

Doh of course (Mcb to me)

its on a 16Amcb

leaves the CU in 2.5mm T+E and is clipped direct for 7 metres then disappears down a stud wall. so HR flex will be no longer than 2 metres.

Table 4e2a ref method A 18.5A Current Carry Cap.

Would you concur.....

Macca

 

[Riggy]

That for me would be a 4, albeit for several reasons!

 

[maccarooni]

I would be happy to take on board your reasons.

Its a good way of seeing everyones perspective on things.

Macca

 

[Riggy]

OK:

1. No means of isolation

2. No way to inspect joint (I have to assume it's not a maintenance free joint)

3. RCD not 30mA on buried cables (another assumption that installation is not overseen by a competent or instructed person)

I'm sure I has more in my mind before but they've gone, propelled by whisky!

 

[Sidewinder]

Are you sure that is whisky or is it whiskey?...

; \ ; \ ; \

Paul :^O

 

[maccarooni]

OK:1. No means of isolation

2. No way to inspect joint (I have to assume it's not a maintenance free joint)

3. RCD not 30mA on buried cables (another assumption that installation is not overseen by a competent or instructed person)

I'm sure I has more in my mind before but they've gone, propelled by whisky!

Should have said

4 DB's in total

Kitchen is only one with 100m/A rcd

Toilet block has 30m/A MS

but your points taken on board and thanks for your input.

Macca

 

[Sidewinder]

Macca,

I'm in a pedantic mood! ]

It's NOT m/A its mA.

m/A is minutes per amp, mA is milli amps!

:coat

Paul

 

[Risteard]

Are you sure that is whisky or is it whiskey?... ; \ ; \ ; \

Paul :^O

Depends what it is.

Irish whiskey is whiskey.

Any other type is whisky.

Comes from the Irish uisce beatha (the water of life).

 

[Sidewinder]

I saw the flag, that's why I asked !!!!!!!!