ring final vs ring

[Evans Electric]

Up here it is BELT for a medium sized shock, TICKLE for a smaller shock, CLOUT or A REET CLOUT for a larger size shock.

if it is LIVE i.e. on Supply then it is said to be WICK

all these will be in the 18th edition Amd 99 due out September 2018

Similar here ....we also have the TICKLE ...then  the BELT... followed by the "RIGHT BELT" ,  or the alternative ,  The PISSER ,  and the RIGHT PISSER . 

NOT heard of live being WICK  TBH   but a dead supply is BROWN BREAD.

Andy;  I suppose the change in colours was a total waste of time now we are "Brexiting"

 

[sprocketflup]

the powers that be like to keep changing the name of things...

it used to be 'live'. then 'phase'. now its 'line', but just to complicate things even more both line & neutral are also 'live'

we also had direct & indirect contact. that was too complicated so its now basic & fault...

Think its gone full circle and gone back to 'Live' again hasn't it?

Deano  ... consider the old method in domestic premises , back in the 1940s  - 1950s  , rubber cable ,  sockets could have been a mixture of  2A x 2 pin .... 5A x 2 pin ...5A x 3 pin .... 15A  x 3 pin   or use a bayonet  adaptor, remove the light bulb and plug into the ceiling rose.  

The 15A sockets would all be wired back separately .

So back then ,  one simple ring main using 13A  BS 1363 sockets would be adequate for a small house .  

It saved cable .

It could be added to.

It standardised all the plug tops . 

Not uncommon to find a 4 way board for a house :-

 8 Lights

 6  Plugs

Cooker

Imm. Htr.

You need to know that the names of things in this trade are like the staircases at Hogwarts , they keep being  changed by  those above us  and the use of initials is encouraged until idiots like me don't know what others are talking about . 

To understand types of Supply you need to speak latin and it all makes sense ..so for  Earth say Terra , as in Terra Firma  then a TN-C-S  begins to make sense.

Spur units are now FCKU  or something .

Fuseboards or "The Board"  are CUs  or a Consumer's unit shortened to Consumer Unit.

The obvious one of course was to change all the cable colours .

Fuses are now OPD s  or something similar , so it goes on .

Conduit & trunking is now Cable Management .    And so it goes on.

:slap that did make me chuckle

 

[Tony S]

Keep on the radials for everything track you’d better get used to fitting these.

 

[Geoff1946]

Keep on the radials for everything track you’d better get used to fitting these.

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I've seen a few French installations where everything seems to have its own radial and some of the domestic panels are a size you would only find in commercial premises here. They also use double pole MCBs, which greatly simplifies finding neutral related faults. Three phase in houses is common too.

 

[Lurch]

Keep on the radials for everything track you’d better get used to fitting these.

Don't you mean these;

 

[kerching]

Bring back 'death wish' fuses I say.....the ones with the fuse wire on the OUTSIDE! That sorted out the REAL Sparks from the dead ones

 

[Sidewinder]

Not directly, AFAIAA the reason for the ring main was it was easy to convert a couple of 15A circuits into a ring and add a few more sockets along the way without worrying about stretching the limits of the radial circuits.

It is a little more complex than that, and there is not a lot of definitive archive materials available on the detail.

That is part of the reason, as is careful use of materials during and after WW2.

Along with many what we would call today Quango's looking into how Britain would manage during the war and after and looking at housing improvements.

See if you can find Latimer's paper that he presented at the IET 31/10/07 on the history of the ring circuit & BS1363.