Drill sharpening ...yes have always done it . £25 for a bench grinder paid dividends I reckon , with sharp chisels too .
So......when I Was An Apprentice I Had To.....................
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Should never sharpen wood chisels on a dry bench grinder, the temper is such that even the smallest overheating would remove the temper from the blade.
Thus softening the blade and making it blunt quicker.
They should be ground on an old fashioned whetstone, or an oil cooled stone such as a Bear Grinder, of by hand on an oilstone, unless you can sharpen it on a coolant flooded stone of another kind.
Thus softening the blade and making it blunt quicker.
They should be ground on an old fashioned whetstone, or an oil cooled stone such as a Bear Grinder, of by hand on an oilstone, unless you can sharpen it on a coolant flooded stone of another kind.
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My apprenticeship memories are marred with bad memories and some good ones. I never fell for the obvious, but I was so keen to learn that they did abuse me!!
I was apprenticed to an old guy called cyril, he was absolutely great he did not give a ****, and taught me to be the same. I started in 1976 so we had asbestos, lead cables and vir to deal with, I just asked questions and got on with what I was supposed to do. Never did me any harm. OR DID IT?
I was apprenticed to an old guy called cyril, he was absolutely great he did not give a ****, and taught me to be the same. I started in 1976 so we had asbestos, lead cables and vir to deal with, I just asked questions and got on with what I was supposed to do. Never did me any harm. OR DID IT?
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I have one of the Tormek machines. Excellent for this job. Few quid more than £25...........
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Having tallow and thread swarff plastered around my crown jewels (Mother not happy)
Overalls nailed to the floor with me in them
Getting sent to the wholesalers on my pushbike to pick up a bundle of 3/4 BE conduit
Rawlplug jumper
Bully boy Electricians, Plumbers,Carpenters
Irish road workers crappin in the corners of newly built houses
Irish Gangers frying bacon on their spades
Chasing with a 2ld lump hammer and blunt bolster
The list goes on and on and on
Overalls nailed to the floor with me in them
Getting sent to the wholesalers on my pushbike to pick up a bundle of 3/4 BE conduit
Rawlplug jumper
Bully boy Electricians, Plumbers,Carpenters
Irish road workers crappin in the corners of newly built houses
Irish Gangers frying bacon on their spades
Chasing with a 2ld lump hammer and blunt bolster
The list goes on and on and on
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Plus one to that; in similar vein cold chisels should be
filed flat to form the edge and not run against a dry grinder.
My Dad used to get free and new center punches by
"knocking up" an old one out of a piece of lead.When
the guy who ran the forge dropped them in to temper
them, they melted so my Dad would ask where his was.
He HAD to be issued with a new one.
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Pete10001
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Enox hole cutters
Stanley wooden handled electricians screwdrivers
Bib and Brace overalls
capping and casing, yes I am old enough to remember it
Wooden boxes for switches
Stanley wooden handled electricians screwdrivers
Bib and Brace overalls
capping and casing, yes I am old enough to remember it
Wooden boxes for switches
Oh what horrors has Pete unearthed !!!
Bloody Enox cutters were to tool of the Devil .
I think the cost of tools has reduced over the years , they were dear compared to a spark's wages back then . Replacing a Stanley rule that clips on the belt was 1/5 of your wages . You didn't buy those sets of screwdrivers that are so cheap back then.
It probably started the attitude of tradesmen not liking to loan tools out .
Bloody Enox cutters were to tool of the Devil .
I think the cost of tools has reduced over the years , they were dear compared to a spark's wages back then . Replacing a Stanley rule that clips on the belt was 1/5 of your wages . You didn't buy those sets of screwdrivers that are so cheap back then.
It probably started the attitude of tradesmen not liking to loan tools out .
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Responses still only from Time Served members, 2 speshul needs and one bovine botherer....
Just saying
Just saying
Forget that!
Read wood chisel, not cold chisel!!!
Sorry!
A cold chisel can be filed, and can be CAREFULLY dry ground, with intermittent cooling as they are of a greater thermal mass than a wood chisel, and the steel has a lower carbon content.
Get an old one of each and dry grind them heavily, see the difference in the sparks, that will give you an indication of the carbon content of the steel.
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Used to get sent to get Enox blades sharpened believe it or not
I also used to mark my tools where possible wit a junior hacksaw
Gladstone bags to carry my tools in none of this ProPac xxc crap going about to day
Daily Sketch and 3 doughnuts for a shilling, 10p
walking or busing it to work no company vans in those days
Elmo earth clamps
Black japanned screws
Buckle clips, those were the days
No Stanley Fat Max either
Sorry got to go tears are starting flow
I also used to mark my tools where possible wit a junior hacksaw
Gladstone bags to carry my tools in none of this ProPac xxc crap going about to day
Daily Sketch and 3 doughnuts for a shilling, 10p
walking or busing it to work no company vans in those days
Elmo earth clamps
Black japanned screws
Buckle clips, those were the days
No Stanley Fat Max either
Sorry got to go tears are starting flow
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But the thread is about what you did in your apprenticeship.
So to have any meaningful input you need to have done an apprenticeship.
If the thread was about what you did on a 5WW course, I would not have contributed.
ill fill that in for you
Day 1: not much
Day 2: not much
Day 3: bit less than yesterday
Day 4: really hard. had to strip a bit to T&E
Day 5: day off to recover from day 4
Day 6: wire a double socket on a piece of plywood, feed from adjacent socket
Day 7: complete yesterdays assignment
Day 8: re-do the job, but use earth sleeving
Day 9: test it with a breaker test & plug in neon tester
Day 10: fill in certificate. now qualified as electrican
Do you really think they do that much????? 
BTW I did my 2381 in 3 days and my 2391 in 4 1/2.
BTW I did my 2381 in 3 days and my 2391 in 4 1/2.
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I was 6 when we got decimalised.
I got off quite lightly in my apprentice days, but my favourite recollection was winding up the 1 girl apprentice, a young lady called Emma. I used to maintain the enviromental test chambers - gerrt big box, with various jigs and fixtures in them. Whilst slightly bored one day I made a spider from bits of black pipe insulation and some black wire, then painted 2 beady eyes and a pair of fangs on it. It was a little dinky thing about the size of a 50p piece. Said spider was strategically located in the dark gloomy rear of the test chamber Emma loaded with products. Me and gary, my buddy waited with anticipation for Emma to turn up as we were working on some of the other test chambers, but she failed to show. Some hours later whilst lurking at the back our workshop, in flies Emma with said spider, a face like thunder, and some rude words, before throwing said spider at us and storming put in a huff. I examined the spider after much side splitting, and realised it had a dimple on its back, that coincided with the size of a ladies stilletto heel. It transpired Emma didn't like spiders, and had spotted the wee beasty staring at her from the gloom, jumped out of her skin. But with a job to do, had then got all brave and struck it with her shoe, several times. Having realised it wasn't real, she apparently got all annoyed and had worked out exactly who was guilty party pretty quickly ( really annoyed we missed the real fun). We made some bigger ones after that :innocent
I got off quite lightly in my apprentice days, but my favourite recollection was winding up the 1 girl apprentice, a young lady called Emma. I used to maintain the enviromental test chambers - gerrt big box, with various jigs and fixtures in them. Whilst slightly bored one day I made a spider from bits of black pipe insulation and some black wire, then painted 2 beady eyes and a pair of fangs on it. It was a little dinky thing about the size of a 50p piece. Said spider was strategically located in the dark gloomy rear of the test chamber Emma loaded with products. Me and gary, my buddy waited with anticipation for Emma to turn up as we were working on some of the other test chambers, but she failed to show. Some hours later whilst lurking at the back our workshop, in flies Emma with said spider, a face like thunder, and some rude words, before throwing said spider at us and storming put in a huff. I examined the spider after much side splitting, and realised it had a dimple on its back, that coincided with the size of a ladies stilletto heel. It transpired Emma didn't like spiders, and had spotted the wee beasty staring at her from the gloom, jumped out of her skin. But with a job to do, had then got all brave and struck it with her shoe, several times. Having realised it wasn't real, she apparently got all annoyed and had worked out exactly who was guilty party pretty quickly ( really annoyed we missed the real fun). We made some bigger ones after that :innocent
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Done that Sidewinder; ....It was my dad who told me about the techniques AND the carbon content.
I was sometimes really ticked off if I ground a COLD chisel dry.
Yes;.....I do know the difference between a cold chisel and a wood chisel.
