SWA termination

[SPECIAL LOCATION]

Personally with two ends of different cables...

and an unknown joint..

I would want to open circuit both ends..

insulation resistance test across all combinations..

then continuity test with a known Resistance long lead..

e.g. a reel of 4mm earth...

then connector block onto each core in turn..

check continuity to verify if the joint appears to have similar resistive values on each leg..

Just another side point..

if you have two different ends and an unknown joint location..

how do you know there isn't a third cable also branched off the joint???

 

[welshwizard]

I reckon that there was a shed there previously (mid point). This has been removed and the three core SWA originally used to supply the shed has been joined to the 2 core SWA.

You have a Phase, Neutral & CPC. The CPC is connected to the Armour in the 2 core.

And I bet a "Cold Resin Joint" hasn't been used either.

 

[davetheglitz]

Dave - How long have you been an Electrician, Mate?Do you specialise in Domestic, Industrial or Commercial?

Electrical and Electronics engineer - 30 years, Science Teacher 2 years, Sparky 18 months. Generally domestic. Mainly do home insurance callouts (anything from tripping/lighting faults/floods/fire/broken fittings etc). Also shop signs, inspections and some contracting work. Generally speaking big on diagnostics and inspection - but limited on contracting - hence some basic questions!

 

[welshwizard]

I See.

 

[davetheglitz]

Thanks SL and WW - valid points that I'm not going to get the chance to investigate! Frustrating aint it!

 

[SPECIAL LOCATION]

I reckon that there was a shed there previously (mid point). This has been removed and the three core SWA originally used to supply the shed has been joined to the 2 core SWA.You have a Phase, Neutral & CPC. The CPC is connected to the Armour in the 2 core.

And I bet a "Cold Resin Joint" hasn't been used either.

If there was a shed there...

and its gone missing....

I bet it'll be in steptoes yard!!! :^O :^O:^O:^O

I would be concerned about an unknown joint type as well??

As you say WW....

if not terminated correctly....

it should be accessible for inspection and testing???? :|

 

[kme]

I reckon that there was a shed there previously (mid point). This has been removed and the three core SWA originally used to supply the shed has been joined to the 2 core SWA.You have a Phase, Neutral & CPC. The CPC is connected to the Armour in the 2 core.

And I bet a "Cold Resin Joint" hasn't been used either.

A SHED???????

Surely, it may have been a "workshop"!!!!!!

Heathen!.

And, OY, special. I`m talking to you; don`t walk off.

I`m pretty sure that`s what I said (or meant, anyway!)

Just `cos you`re more lucid than me. Only means you haven`t supped enough yet......

 

[kme]

If there was a shed there...and its gone missing....

I bet it'll be in steptoes yard!!! :^O :^O:^O:^O

I would be concerned about an unknown joint type as well??

As you say WW....

if not terminated correctly....

it should be accessible for inspection and testing???? :|

BUT....

If it IS terminated correctly; it does NOT have to be accessible. Therefore, maybe the fact that it`s inaccessible means that it`s terminated correctly???

 

[welshwizard]

Thanks SL and WW - valid points that I'm not going to get the chance to investigate! Frustrating aint it!

Nice "Title", You have there, Dave.

 

[welshwizard]

If there was a shed there...and its gone missing....

I bet it'll be in steptoes yard!!! :^O :^O:^O:^O

I would be concerned about an unknown joint type as well??

As you say WW....

if not terminated correctly....

it should be accessible for inspection and testing???? :|

If done correctly, as you know SL, a "Cold resin Joint" is a perminent joint.

 

[welshwizard]

A SHED???????Surely, it may have been a "workshop"!!!!!!

Heathen!.

And, OY, special. I`m talking to you; don`t walk off.

I`m pretty sure that`s what I said (or meant, anyway!)

Just `cos you`re more lucid than me. Only means you haven`t supped enough yet......

{{{ SHED }}} 'Tis a workshop - Man!. X(

 

[SPECIAL LOCATION]

Thanks SL and WW - valid points that I'm not going to get the chance to investigate! Frustrating aint it!

Its a b****r!!

Thats always the problem working for others...

one persons Good workmanship & proper materials ain't necessarily yours!?

I note from your location Dave you say Cornwall!B)B)

which bit are you in?

the fat bit..

thin bit..

the white china clay mountain bit..

the wind turbine bit..

the surfy bit..

the harbours & dockside bits..

or the wild desolate moreland bit?? ?:|

I hope this SWA isn't to get power back onto that smugglers hideaway where you can squirrel any illegal substances you may have acquired off Mr Sworld... I've heard his ice cream has secret ingredients?? ] ]

 

[kme]

I`se tired. But, the lady of the house requires my manly services, I need to rise to the occasion, and provide yet another "night to remember".

I enjoy chatting ladies & gents, but there comes a time when your actions must be more than your words.................

OOOOOOOOOOOOOhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Do that again....... OH! What`re you going to do with that le....................................................................................................................................................................................................

:x:x:x:xB)

 

[SPECIAL LOCATION]

If done correctly, as you know SL, a "Cold resin Joint" is a perminent joint.

I know a cold resin joint is a PERMANENT joint!

but I didn't know it is also a 'perminent' joint......

whatever one of them is!!!! :^O :^O:^O

I though the earlier supposition put to the court was that

you bet it wasn't a cold resin joint??

I shall ask the secretary to re-read the minutes.....

therefore accessibility would be required...

but hopefully it is cold and resin and jointed and safely out of harms way?

But I bet its a twist & tape joint!!!!!!!!!!!! :O] ] ]

 

[steptoe]

If done correctly, as you know SL, a "Cold resin Joint" is a perminent joint.

and the difference between cold resin and half a tube of silicon to diy bob is.???

 

[steptoe]

its not really an issue what the joint is tbh IMHO.

you are only certifying the actual work you do.

fair enough, even I wouldnt touch this by the sounds of things, but if you aint altering the supply/sub then you dont have to certify it.

you only have to prove Ze at your sub board, and the ccts fed off it.

oh, btw,

you CANT export the earth........... :^O :^O:^O:^O:^O:^O:^O

 

[SPECIAL LOCATION]

its not really an issue what the joint is tbh IMHO.you are only certifying the actual work you do.

fair enough, even I wouldnt touch this by the sounds of things, but if you aint altering the supply/sub then you dont have to certify it.

you only have to prove Ze at your sub board, and the ccts fed off it.

oh, btw,

you CANT export the earth........... :^O :^O:^O:^O:^O:^O:^O

Well.............

that certain thread has lain dormant for over a whole day now!!! :O:O

I dare you to go and give it another prod:^O:^O:^O]

But give me 2mins head start to run in the opposite direction!!!!B) :^O :^O]

 

[steptoe]

Well.............that certain thread has lain dormant for over a whole day now!!! :O:O

I dare you to go and give it another prod:^O:^O:^O]

But give me 2mins head start to run in the opposite direction!!!!B) :^O :^O]

you are NOT going to bait me that easily.............

 

[SPECIAL LOCATION]

you are NOT going to bait me that easily.............

Doh!...

Oh well..... if there aren't going to be any fireworks to stay up and watch...

I may as well go to bed! :|

wots more....B)

it is bloomin 1:30....

what fool would be up at this hour forum typin???? ?:|

Oh ME for one! :_|

G-night everyone left in forum land:|

 

[Theorysparky]

I`se tired. But, the lady of the house requires my manly services, I need to rise to the occasion, and provide yet another "night to remember".I enjoy chatting ladies & gents, but there comes a time when your actions must be more than your words.................

OOOOOOOOOOOOOhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Do that again....... OH! What`re you going to do with that le....................................................................................................................................................................................................

:x:x:x:xB)

And why do you think i have to go to bed early !!!!!!! B)B)B)