taking lights on house move

[paul b b]

hello chaps,

customer is moving and wants to take their lights, ceiling easy enough, but, they have wall lights and a picture light also.

now i thought of puting a jb on there, i know its sloppy but they wont pay for new lights (well why would they), is this ok?

they also want to take some lights that are in there flower borders, should i rip all cable out? or is it ok for it to be burried?

thanks

paul

 

[sellers]

but batten lamp holders on? or disconnect and lock off with a key at board.

 

[SPECIAL LOCATION]

hello chaps,customer is moving and wants to take their lights, ceiling easy enough, but, they have wall lights and a picture light also.

now i thought of puting a jb on there, i know its sloppy but they wont pay for new lights (well why would they), is this ok?

they also want to take some lights that are in there flower borders, should i rip all cable out? or is it ok for it to be burried?

thanks

paul

Wall lights:-

Not Good leaving a tape joint..

So:-

stuff a choc box with a connector block or wago to prevent cables touching each other...

Bottom line

Choc-box needs a tool to open up..

so providing cables are secured into a strain relief clamp alls good and safe!

personally I would stick a little self adhesive label on choc-box saying which circuit it is from..

ALSO

MAKE SURE your company name and phone number are scattered wherever feasible around the property so new owners can find you easily!

Garden lights:-

I would physically disconnect them at wherever they first terminate after entering the property!

 

[septiclecky]

hello chaps,customer is moving and wants to take their lights, ceiling easy enough, but, they have wall lights and a picture light also.

now i thought of puting a jb on there, i know its sloppy but they wont pay for new lights (well why would they), is this ok?

they also want to take some lights that are in there flower borders, should i rip all cable out? or is it ok for it to be burried?

thanks

paul

It may not be your problem but on sale of house the lights are classed as fixtures and fittings and if not agreed on sale of house then you may be dropping yourself in the proverble

 

[initforthemoney]

I would think the client would be the ones in trouble, not the electrician.

 

[PC Electrics]

The vendor must leave at least one light fitting in each room (complete with lamp). If the wall lights are the only lights in a room, then at least one will have to be replaced with a light unit of some sort - you could use a batten (looks aren't important). Otherwise all (live) cable ends should be terminated in an enclosure - a jb would do or as Specs suggested.

All terminations must be safe, so the garden lights circuit is probably best disconnected inside somewhere. At least wrap the cable ends in self amalgamating tape or heatshrink to prevent corrosion so they can be reused by the new owners.

If the vendors have a "couldn't care less" attitude, just say that you have a duty of care to leave everything safe and able to be reused. Do a neat job and put a sticker on the CU with your name and number. You could even leave a card with the selling agent to pass to the new owners.

 

[initforthemoney]

The electrician DOES NOT have any hold over the homeowner.

It is the homeowner that has the duty of care.

If they choose to ignore it, then they become liable.

 

[ianmacd]

A spark also has a duty of care (albeit a different one). Leaving an installation in a more dangeros state whould be a breech of said duty and I would fully support prosecution of anyone that did so after all thats what the cowboys do.

 

[wozz]

If you use jbs make sure they have strain relief. Whenever i have done this the buyers solicitor has requested a MWC for the removal of the fittings and installation of pendants.

 

[Apache]

Would it not be as quick and cheap to terminate wire into a pendant/batten lampholder than into some other enclosure?

 

[Andy™]

would be a little more to use pendant/battens as enclosure than a choc box, but it makes more sense to use a pendant/batten though

 

[ElectekAir]

I would install pendants looks better to the new owner and the old one is paying for them anyway (they are so cheap taking the fittings rather than buying new ones) probably just spent like

 

[initforthemoney]

Hmmm.

Personally, i think providing the cables are terminated properly, then the onus is back on the householder.

But yes, i think they do have to leave at least one per room.