V2H or V2G availability

[carptench]

Hi All
Recently got consumed by renewable energy and fitted a 3.6kw solar array which will be dual axis tracking once completed. Went one step further and bought a EV due to ridiculous fuel prices.
I've been following a few threads and people state they are getting V2H and V2G but as far as I can see this technology is not available.
I've contacted Indra who have done trials on this and are now processing the data but not available.
In the Nissan leaf manual there is a section on V2G chargers which have to be approved by Nissan but as far as I can see they are not available.
Is this a UK thing as in not available in the UK? Or can anyone post a link to a company that actually has this technology available to buy now?

Thanks

 

[johnb2713]

Octopus have a list on their website of vehicles they support for V2G.

https://octopusev.com/powerloop

 

[carptench]

Thanks John
I had already looked at Powerloop and the trial is over as with Indra. So not available through Octopus.

 

[LBLCS]

Wallbox Quaser - About 5/6 grand.

 

[carptench]

Wallbox Quaser - About 5/6 grand.

Thanks I am aware of that one but cant find a UK supplier. The price is expensive but when you weigh up unleashing 40kw of power from the car its worth considering.

 

[carptench]

Thanks I am aware of that one but cant find a UK supplier. The price is expensive but when you weigh up unleashing 40kw of power from the car its worth considering.

Also emailed Wallbox 3 times for information on supplying to the UK or providing details of a distributer but had no response.

 

[johnb2713]

Thanks I am aware of that one but cant find a UK supplier. The price is expensive but when you weigh up unleashing 40kw of power from the car its worth considering.

When you consider it's little different to a solar PV grid tied inverter. 3 to 400v DC going in, a few kW going into the grid, £5k is a rip off as you would expect for minor adaptation of existing technology.

 

[carptench]

When you consider it's little different to a solar PV grid tied inverter. 3 to 400v DC going in, a few kW going into the grid, £5k is a rip off as you would expect for minor adaptation of existing technology.

Maybe so but the pay back is short compared to buying batteries. Battery prices have doubled in six months. If you bought 40kw of Pylontech batteries now would cost 15k plus. Without the inverter to go with it. If you wanted 40k of Tesla battery would cost 40k.
I know they are milking it but what's the alternative.

 

[johnb2713]

Maybe so but the pay back is short compared to buying batteries. Battery prices have doubled in six months. If you bought 40kw of Pylontech batteries now would cost 15k plus. Without the inverter to go with it. If you wanted 40k of Tesla battery would cost 40k.
I know they are milking it but what's the alternative.

I'm being critical of you just the manufacturers milking it for all it's worth.

I'm just building a 16kWh battery for less than Ive just paid for a Growatt 7kWh battery, substantially less.

 

[carptench]

I'm being critical of you just the manufacturers milking it for all it's worth.

I'm just building a 16kWh battery for less than Ive just paid for a Growatt 7kWh battery, substantially less.

I know they are milking it which is why suddenly it doesn't seem to be available. Increase the price with electricity prices??
Can you provide more info on the battery build and bms? Very interested in this.

 

[johnb2713]

EVE 280ah cells from Fogstar, UK shipped, discount codes available. I put them in a shopping basket online but didnt complete, after 2 days they offered further discount.
https://www.fogstar.co.uk/products/eve-lifepo4-280ah-prismatic-cell
BMS will be SEPLOS built into their case all married up to either a Victron or a Growatt inverter.
The Seplos case

 

[carptench]

EVE 280ah cells from Fogstar, UK shipped, discount codes available. I put them in a shopping basket online but didnt complete, after 2 days they offered further discount.
https://www.fogstar.co.uk/products/eve-lifepo4-280ah-prismatic-cell
BMS will be SEPLOS built into their case all married up to either a Victron or a Growatt inverter.
The Seplos case

Ok will have a look.
Thanks You

 

[Gian]

Hi All
Recently got consumed by renewable energy and fitted a 3.6kw solar array which will be dual axis tracking once completed. Went one step further and bought a EV due to ridiculous fuel prices.
I've been following a few threads and people state they are getting V2H and V2G but as far as I can see this technology is not available.
I've contacted Indra who have done trials on this and are now processing the data but not available.
In the Nissan leaf manual there is a section on V2G chargers which have to be approved by Nissan but as far as I can see they are not available.
Is this a UK thing as in not available in the UK? Or can anyone post a link to a company that actually has this technology available to buy now?

Thanks

Project ev are sitting on the fence as I made an inquiry. It's just a matter of waiting ,for me I wanted to use it to support my home rather than spend money on dedicated home battery's I prefer to put that money into a car so it's multiple use. Trouble is it's slow, and I can see the second regulation that will allow our suppliers to take from your car battery when they need it.

 

[carptench]

Project ev are sitting on the fence as I made an inquiry. It's just a matter of waiting ,for me I wanted to use it to support my home rather than spend money on dedicated home battery's I prefer to put that money into a car so it's multiple use. Trouble is it's slow, and I can see the second regulation that will allow our suppliers to take from your car battery when they need it.

Thanks Gian
I can't see V2G working unless they can prove that it doesn't degrade the battery and offer some incentive. Why would anyone want to spend 25k plus on a car then 5k on a charger and let everyone else have the benefit.
V2H is different as you make the choice to use the battery on the car for your own use. Makes perfect sense and like you said saves investing in home battery.