Visual Inspection Forms

[Jono Pashley]

I seem to remember we had something like this in the downloads section but i cant seem to find it anymore. Anyone got anything similar?

 

[a3]

Do you mean Domestic Visual Condition Report ?

 

[Jono Pashley]

That would be the one i thinks, i know NIC do them, but sure i saw a editable version kicking about somewhere

 

[a3]

The forms that were in the download section were scanned in NIC ones with a copyright logo so they were removed. If anyone has some and uploads them to the downloads section I will gladly check and approve them for members.

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

Just uploaded a 2 page report

 

[Evans Electric]

How extensive is a "Visual Report" .

I've looked at many installations where either me or my oppo have said " This looks like a decent job won't be much wrong with this " . Then going on to unearth the usual lurking nasties .

The only times I've done a "Visual" was after opening the front door , looking at half a dozen wooden fuseboxes with glass doors ,rewirable fuses and a load of crumbling rubber cable dissapearing into the ceiling.

Send a letter stating property needs rewiring in the opinion of EE .

 

[Jono Pashley]

Clients want one completed prior to a full inspection, if they want to pay it im happy to take their money but i always make perfectly clear it is in no way a suitable alternative to regular inspection to BS7671

 

[kerching]

For what its worth....my IE told me 'if doing a visual inspection then leave ALL your test equipment in the van, ALL of it AND state on the report that NO INSTRUMENTS WERE USED OR READINGS TAKEN ' ....just saying............................... :coat

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

The visual report was brought in for rental properties that are supposed to have annual & change of occupier checks. It was designed for that purpose only when the previous or current full test certificates/report are available for inspection. In these cases a visual check to see if anything had been damaged or changed is deemed acceptable.

To recap, this means the Domestic visual condition report should only be issued when a current or just expired installation certificate or satisfactory Periodic inspection report (now a Electrical installation condition report) is shown. This means it can only be issued once in between a EICR

 

[Theorysparky]

Disagree with you there Slips

No requirement for a EICR on a rental property so the rules for using a Visual Report only for a recent EICR is non issue

do what is asked get the money and go

for everyones info i do visuals all the time on rental properties with PAT Testing,RCD tests and ZS tests at most sockets

1.5 hrs max with remedials upto £50 done at the same time

 

[Sharpend]

Can you explain how you do a visual on RCD Tests - unless it's a push the button jobbie?- visual on a Zs??

You are either doing a Visual or part EICR?

Is it not recommended that an EICR be done on a change of occupancy?

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

Disagree with you there Slips

No requirement for a EICR on a rental property so the rules for using a Visual Report only for a recent EICR is non issue

No legal requirement but its in GN3, sub clause 3.5, Routine checks.

 

[Theorysparky]

fair enough Slips,,,,,but if the landlord wont pay for an EICR but will have a visual then cheers easy

i keep getting told by them that there is no legal requirement so what can you do ?

Sharps

yes it is a part EICR but on my own Visual forms,,,,,,i do think the visuals are pants but checking the Rcd for trip times isnt time consuming

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

I was asked by an irate landlord why i had commented on poor terminations, no grommets, no cable markings and metal plates not earthed whist i was carrying out a Visual report as i shouldn't have unscrewed anything. I replied i looked, didn't test.

 

[Theorysparky]

His idea of a visual report

no testing no tools

 

[sellers]

My assesor said when doing a visual, leave the tester in the van. If you start testing you are leading on to an EICR.

 

[kerching]

My assesor said when doing a visual, leave the tester in the van. If you start testing you are leading on to an EICR.

Exactly what I said in post #8

Sellers, spotted today stood by a ladder at the corner of that bungalow. I would have stopped and introduced myself but 'time was pressing and wife was driving' :innocent

 

[Sharpend]

If the wife was driving I'd have thought that you'd of had time for tea biscuits never mind a chat, time it takes a woman to get along the road!

Boy am I fed up with following women and old people, there should be some law that limits these groups to certain times of the day.

 

[Theorysparky]

Visual report with zs results and rcd checks or

EICR with loads of lims ? worthless in my mind

just for info..........zs of sockets have revealed P-E faults,,,high reading due to worn sockets, faulty RCD;s

but thats just me...........

The scammers dont make the rules......

 

[sellers]

Exactly what I said in post #8

Sellers, spotted today stood by a ladder at the corner of that bungalow. I would have stopped and introduced myself but 'time was pressing and wife was driving' :innocent

Stalking again! If it was me I was wearing my wheres wally ski hat today, green and yellow!