Who does this work !!!!!!

[Steve3948]

Two jobs and two heaps of s*ite.

 

[NozSpark]

WHAT:O:O

Have they got a water cooled CU??? ; )

 

[Steve3948]

WHAT:O:O Have they got a water cooled CU??? ; )

That's what I said, haha.

This garage had no power and when I looked at it I thought no wonder, I told the client if it had power I would be disconnecting it.

They have just bought the house and the PIR done early last year does not even mention the garage.

Found the other end of the blue pipe coming out of the patio by the house and cut off, did not find the other blue pipe, but this is DIY at it's best.

Price on it's way to do it the correct way.

The cables in connectors under the window sill, well the socket had no power, then we found this and thought that's the problem, however although bad all connections seemed ok, decided to turn the light switch on and yes we had power to the double socket wired in 2.5mm

 

[sprocketflup]

Is that CU plugged into a 13a socket? So thats how you get incoming power is it? Learn summat new evry day.......

 

[streetlighter]

Let me guess the blue poly pipe was used as conduit for twin & earth ?

 

[Andy™]

Is that CU plugged into a 13a socket? So thats how you get incoming power is it? Learn summat new evry day.......

no - someone wired the ring main but forgot to take a cable into the board. the plug you see is feeding the circuit...

 

[ProDave]

On one new build the builder thought he was being helpful and buried a bit of 25mm blue MPDE pipe "for the electricity supply"

The DNO, quite rightly, refused to feed their cable through a blue pipe, and insisted on a black duct being installed before they would install the supply.

 

[Steve3948]

On one new build the builder thought he was being helpful and buried a bit of 25mm blue MPDE pipe "for the electricity supply"The DNO, quite rightly, refused to feed their cable through a blue pipe, and insisted on a black duct being installed before they would install the supply.

Dave last year on a new build the builder put in 4" duct using plastic brown soil pipe from where the plant room would be to the outside of the build ready for SSE to push their cable into plant room.

About 10 months later they turned up and said no way, it has to be black, the builder could not do anything about it and they had to dig a trench around the outside of the building across a finished block path to get into plant room, took them 3 days, such a shame with 4" brown duct wasted.

 

[Andy™]

Dave last year on a new build the builder put in 4" duct using plastic brown soil pipe from where the plant room would be to the outside of the build ready for SSE to push their cable into plant room.About 10 months later they turned up and said no way, it has to be black, the builder could not do anything about it and they had to dig a trench around the outside of the building across a finished block path to get into plant room, took them 3 days, such a shame with 4" brown duct wasted.

builder should have pulled some duct through the soil pipe, sealed the ends of the soil pipe and say he has put the black duct in as requested...

 

[sprocketflup]

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[Apache]

Old imperial water pipe is black. Can't see why the colour should matter.

 

[Andy™]

Old imperial water pipe is black. Can't see why the colour should matter.

its coloured so anyone digging a hole knoews whats in it.

if you find a blue water pipe, you wont be expecting a cable to be there. or gas to flow out instead of water

its the equivilent of wrapping the wrong colour sleeving over a conductor

 

[Steve3948]

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[Andy™]

BT used it in the end so it was not wasted.

shouldnt they be using grey?! or possibly green

or was it just more convenient to use it than leave it lying accross the garden , maybe with a little soil thrown on top to hide it?

 

[ProDave]

Well that would have worked but SSE wanted a black 5" duct, and the soil pipe was smaller.They were 100% correct, and the builder should read their brief.

Running a smaller duct inside was not an option, if the floor inside the building was dug up for some reason it would look like a waste pipe.

BT used it in the end so it was not wasted.

Well the Scottish Half of SSE are happy with 2" black ducting. I don't see why the southern half of the "same" company should have different rules.

 

[Andy™]

Well the Scottish Half of SSE are happy with 2" black ducting. I don't see why the southern half of the "same" company should have different rules.

probably different staff with different ideas. and we all know how communication is between large companies, even between the same office

 

[Steve3948]

Well the Scottish Half of SSE are happy with 2" black ducting. I don't see why the southern half of the "same" company should have different rules.

Well Dave it was to allow excess heat to dissipate, so they explained.

They installed a 75mm across the field about 500M, the ducting had to have gaps every 200M to prevent heat build-up in duct, and the same outside each dwelling (3), where they had pots and 35mm tapped off to each.

 

[kerching]

OOOOOOOP here they want Red duct.

40mm for single phase and min of 100mm for 3 phase.

Did a job , back in the day, 3 phase cable had a diameter of about 30mm. We installed a 40mm duct [after all the duct was bigger than the cable, wasn't it??] Utilities spat their dummy out and insisted it was replaced with 100mm, pity really as the duct was only 300mm in length!!!!!..... :coat

 

[batty]

Strange how things change and different approaches by DNO. I did a job a couple of years back this was in SSE area and these guys said they preferred the cables to be buried direct in ground in sharp sand or similar as the heat dissipates better. Remember doing a job about 8 years back on a garage conversion. These where ex RAF houses and we were moving meter which meant finding the incoming electric and gas . We found a couple of clay pipes on drive which we assumed had the services in. But it was a worry breaking them luckily the services were there.

 

[moose man]

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