Is it possible to take power for a 1.kw towel rail heater and extractor from a lighting circuit

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HappyHippyDad said:
I do struggle with threads like this.
The OP is now going to fit this towel radiator, probably in a bathroom that may or may not have 30mA RCD protection. Maybe its in zone 1, maybe not.
It may or may not have a working earth (no Zs will be done), and there may or may not be existing IR faults on the circuit.
They may be using 3 core flex (0.75mm or less) and they may just tape up a choc block in the loft when they pinch power.
I think a little knowledge is dangerous and we should either take the time to fully explain all aspects of the job to the DIYer (which I very very occasionally do), or give no advice at all (which I usually choose).
Sorry, I know I'm going to ruffle feathers now, don't mean to!
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Hope he takes the advice given to call in an electrician.
As this is in special location he needs to adhere to the regs for this area most importantly as it will be an addition the said work that is.
 
HappyHippyDad said:
I do struggle with threads like this.
The OP is now going to fit this towel radiator, probably in a bathroom that may or may not have 30mA RCD protection. Maybe its in zone 1, maybe not.
It may or may not have a working earth (no Zs will be done), and there may or may not be existing IR faults on the circuit.
They may be using 3 core flex (0.75mm or less) and they may just tape up a choc block in the loft when they pinch power.
I think a little knowledge is dangerous and we should either take the time to fully explain all aspects of the job to the DIYer (which I very very occasionally do), or give no advice at all (which I usually choose).
Sorry, I know I'm going to ruffle feathers now, don't mean to
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They will probably do the job regardless. When I was young, RCDs didn't exist, fuseboards were all wire, and earthing on lighting non existent. Somehow we all lived to tell the tale, despite our mother's knitting and leaving knitting needles lying around.. Very few properties like that exist now.
 
Spoon said:
'All' .... ??? Everyone.....???
It's good to know that no one dies from electric shock back in your day.
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Plenty got blown across the room, all learnt electricity is dangerous 😀. Now was there an odd death, yes, of course there was, but in percentage terms, you're probably looking at something like 0.0001% of the population. No kids I know if we're killed, I know of far more sparkies killed by electricity.
 
Hi, Happy Hippie Dad, you say you don't want to give advice then don't, I never asked you personally, why bother joining an advisory forum if that's the case?
Secondly I'm not a DIYer ive only just qualified to L2/3 & 18th edition but lack the working/practical knowledge that was the whole point if me joining so I didn't just steam in and do the job without taking advice first,.
For all those that did part with your knowledge, I appreciate and thank you and when I'm in a position of wisdom and experience , I will also carry on to the next generation.
Thanks again.
 
Peckhamboy72 said:
Hi, Happy Hippie Dad, you say you don't want to give advice then don't, I never asked you personally, why bother joining an advisory forum if that's the case?
Secondly I'm not a DIYer ive only just qualified to L2/3 & 18th edition but lack the working/practical knowledge that was the whole point if me joining so I didn't just steam in and do the job without taking advice first,.
For all those that did part with your knowledge, I appreciate and thank you and when I'm in a position of wisdom and experience , I will also carry on to the next generation.
Thanks again.
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One thing you will find about the forum members is that they are not mind readers, and don't know your background. So it does help if you make that clear from the outset. You will also find we don't like 'spoon feeding' people, so if you have a problem, and explain what you think is a potential answer, you get a much better response. In fact the 'old dudes' on here will go out of their way to guide you through the regs, and possible solutions and pitfalls of your proposed answer.

Welcome to the forum, and we look forward to helping you learn and understand what can be a rather complicated set of conundrums posed by the regs.
 
Peckhamboy72 said:
Secondly I'm not a DIYer ive only just qualified to L2/3 & 18th edition but lack the working/practical knowledge that was the whole point if me joining so I didn't just steam in and do the job without taking advice first,.
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The assumption was probably made as your question is posted in the DIY Q&A area?
 
Peckhamboy72 said:
Hi, Happy Hippie Dad, you say you don't want to give advice then don't, I never asked you personally, why bother joining an advisory forum if that's the case?
Secondly I'm not a DIYer ive only just qualified to L2/3 & 18th edition but lack the working/practical knowledge that was the whole point if me joining so I didn't just steam in and do the job without taking advice first,.
For all those that did part with your knowledge, I appreciate and thank you and when I'm in a position of wisdom and experience , I will also carry on to the next generation.
Thanks again.
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so you're 'qualified' yet your first question was can you put 1.5kw (6.52a) through a 6a MCB.... doesn't say much for your training / qualifications...
 
Chewbacca, Richard the Ninth, Special Location, Binky, I appreciate the positivity, the other negatives posts, you know what you can do.!

I will be posting again,
PPS. I did the job, using your advice it went well.
1.5mm t&e into a wago box for lighting circuit, 3 core for connection to a isolate switch and fan.
Feed from socket to towel rail (friend told me it was 1.5kw but In visiting it was 200w silver style.
I put 2.5mm cable to rail in trunking buried in the wall, but it does have RCD protection.
 
Peckhamboy72 said:
Is it possible to take power for a 1.5kw towel rail heater and extractor fan from a lighting circuit on a 6amp breaker.
I was thinking if possible to change the ceiling rose to wago connector box and take the 2x cables for towel rail and extractor fan ,1 xcable for light and 1x switch cable , Is this acceptable, i dont know were to look in the regs book for clarification.
Any help much appreciated.
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You need to get an Electrician to do this.
Where would someone start from?
18th edition regulations?
Electrical design?
You have to get a separate circuit for this or be part of a ring final circuit
 
Sylvia said:
You need to get an Electrician to do this.
Where would someone start from?
18th edition regulations?
Electrical design?
You have to get a separate circuit for this or be part of a ring final circuit
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If you stop and read the whole thread your comments are factually incorrect.
 
Peckhamboy72 said:
Hi, Happy Hippie Dad, you say you don't want to give advice then don't, I never asked you personally, why bother joining an advisory forum if that's the case?
Secondly I'm not a DIYer ive only just qualified to L2/3 & 18th edition but lack the working/practical knowledge that was the whole point if me joining so I didn't just steam in and do the job without taking advice first,.
For all those that did part with your knowledge, I appreciate and thank you and when I'm in a position of wisdom and experience , I will also carry on to the next generation.
Thanks again.
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Keep asking questions Peckham. We all started somewhere. Do say you're just starting out next time, rather than DIY post.

Apologies if my post annoyed you, that wasn't the intent. I generally do just ignore DIY posts, but must have been in a more confrontational mood than normal.

Why don't you post up all your results, or even the minor works Certificate and the guys here can go through it with you if you like.
 

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