The question was asked right there Sidewinder, why did you come on and start talking about standard circuit lengths in the OSG as if I didn't know they existed? Possibly we're getting our wires crossed, forgive the pun. We weren't speaking of a specific install, we were talking about floor area served. Sparky999 was asking if it's ok to exceed the area if the Zs is still below and I merely pointed out that VD may be an issue since the cable length may well be exceeded. Take a lighting circuit, you can easily exceed the standard circuit length and your Zs will still be well within tolerance.