Not sure, was a dno install as far as the REC2, after that i think the privateers stepped in!!!
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Advice On The Latest, Landlords Type Card Swipe Meters Needed
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Having looked st your photo's again I am inclined to agree.
Could well have been, and they wonder why UKIP do so well!!
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So , steering the thread back on course 
Went there today , what a cork up !
Just to recap ... house divided into 2 flats , up & down. Cash meters in flats , landlord orders card meters via his electric providor , Siemens coming today .
I go today to remove cash meters & fit Henly Blocks , I do the upstairs one & Meterman arrives .
" Two meters to fit ?" " Thats it mate they're up there " "Right one Smart meter and one gas meter " "Eh!" "Thats whats on my laptop " " No..its two electric meters" " Can't do that ..not on the laptop" "But theres two flats no one mentioned gas" " Gotta do it now I'm here this meter comes out , smart meter goes in" "No thats the Landlords meter it will be feeding both flats " " Can't help that gotta do it "
Thats how it ended up :-
Top flat no cash meter
Bottom flat with cash meter fed from smart meter
Smart card meter feedin whole house ..paid by upstairs tenant
Smart gas meter heating both flats paid by upstairs tennant
Landlord's board fed from smart meter paid by upstairs tenant
Right crock up !
Went there today , what a cork up !
Just to recap ... house divided into 2 flats , up & down. Cash meters in flats , landlord orders card meters via his electric providor , Siemens coming today .
I go today to remove cash meters & fit Henly Blocks , I do the upstairs one & Meterman arrives .
" Two meters to fit ?" " Thats it mate they're up there " "Right one Smart meter and one gas meter " "Eh!" "Thats whats on my laptop " " No..its two electric meters" " Can't do that ..not on the laptop" "But theres two flats no one mentioned gas" " Gotta do it now I'm here this meter comes out , smart meter goes in" "No thats the Landlords meter it will be feeding both flats " " Can't help that gotta do it "
Thats how it ended up :-
Top flat no cash meter
Bottom flat with cash meter fed from smart meter
Smart card meter feedin whole house ..paid by upstairs tenant
Smart gas meter heating both flats paid by upstairs tennant
Landlord's board fed from smart meter paid by upstairs tenant
Right crock up !
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Now if you'd got the custard creams out it would have been a completely different story :innocent
being the IT expert you are Deke, couldnt you just hack into his laptop and change the job to what you actually want?!
Probably made it worse Andy . I just knew that a meterman would NOT suss out that there was a Landlord's board , and I fully expected keeping that connected would be a problem ...but to be changing only one meter and then the GAS meter ....where do they get that from FFS ??
You know Andy ...it was just like one of Stepp's jobs :innocent
You know Andy ...it was just like one of Stepp's jobs :innocent
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Is it this dual fuel mentality these days that's led to this meter monkey swinging between the wrong meters???
Yes I think you're right , the guy could only see...... one house ..one leccy meter , one gas meter .
And who will be topping up the gas meter that feeds the boiler that heats both flats. ?
And who will be topping up the gas meter that feeds the boiler that heats both flats. ?
Well that was October , now its November and still it goes on .
The Landlord has re-requested for a meter for each flat .
He is having the GAS central heating isolated from the upper flat and an electric central heating unit fitted.
SO downstairs will have a smart GAS meter AND a smart ELECTRIC meter . SORTED !!!!
Upstairs will be ALL electric BUT powered from the DOWNSTAIRS meter , paid for by the downstairs tenant via a pre-payment card!!!
They now say they cannot do it any differently and are now looking at running a second supply from the street !!!!! :C
They cannot grasp the concept of splitting the metering at the cut-out .
UNLESSS !!!!! ....it is to give them the option of cutting supply in the street to one or both flats. ( But they don't do that for 18 story block so what the hell is wrong with these people ) ???
The Landlord has re-requested for a meter for each flat .
He is having the GAS central heating isolated from the upper flat and an electric central heating unit fitted.
SO downstairs will have a smart GAS meter AND a smart ELECTRIC meter . SORTED !!!!
Upstairs will be ALL electric BUT powered from the DOWNSTAIRS meter , paid for by the downstairs tenant via a pre-payment card!!!
They now say they cannot do it any differently and are now looking at running a second supply from the street !!!!! :C
They cannot grasp the concept of splitting the metering at the cut-out .
UNLESSS !!!!! ....it is to give them the option of cutting supply in the street to one or both flats. ( But they don't do that for 18 story block so what the hell is wrong with these people ) ???
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Computer says no :C
They are looking for someone to be the BNO, that is the problem, who is the DNO?
What does BNO mean Sidey ?
The DNO is Western Power but they, of course , don't do metering .
He.s dealing with 1st Direct or something ....whoever he buys the power from .
The DNO is Western Power but they, of course , don't do metering .
He.s dealing with 1st Direct or something ....whoever he buys the power from .
building network operator. basically, DNO passing responsibility of wiring to building owner
OK Deke, thought.
Can you get sense out of DNO to split their incoming head into say 2 REC 2's then get metering operator to fit 2 meters one each to these?
Can you get sense out of DNO to split their incoming head into say 2 REC 2's then get metering operator to fit 2 meters one each to these?
Now that is a GOOD idea ! 12 years ago they upgraded their incomer from a 16mm STA to a 35mm concentric. Only one Mpan Number is the stalling point ..............seems simple to me ..just create one for each flat :C
Landlord is dealing with this 1st Direct outfit who, hopefully , will speak to WP .
I'm keeping out of any discussions because in the past they say "We can only speak to the bill payer / building owner etc.
Canoeboy said:
Canoeboy said:
Its not The Four Horsemen is it ? :innocentSounds like these guys stepped in
Just.... not sleeping...
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WPD can create the MPAN for you, so it may help to deal with them, maybe KME or I can pull a favour in down here if needed.
See if you can get through to the local technical office, you should get sense then, well we do round here anyway.
We also normally get to talk sense with WP , but they're not involved at the moment , the metering side of things seems to have gone down the tubes .
Landlord is speaking again tomorrow , but thinking in terms of changing supplier to get some sense .
As I said above , the bloke they sent out from the very German sounding electrical company has rendered the upstairs flat un - rentable until its divided up again . Downstairs man has gone ...upstairs man has moved downstairs .
Actually its a disgrace , landlord says I have two flats in a house , I'd like a top-up card style electric meter for each one :C
Landlord is speaking again tomorrow , but thinking in terms of changing supplier to get some sense .
As I said above , the bloke they sent out from the very German sounding electrical company has rendered the upstairs flat un - rentable until its divided up again . Downstairs man has gone ...upstairs man has moved downstairs .
Actually its a disgrace , landlord says I have two flats in a house , I'd like a top-up card style electric meter for each one :C
Can you not be the BNO Evans? Have this issue with housing associations where no one knows who they are and it takes ages to get someone to take responsibility for the gear and they charge a **** load to turn up! ;
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