Anyone else do data cabling?

[revjames]

This week I was asked to install a data outlet in a shop and hook up a new cable to the hub etc. The boss asked if I had done any of these before and handed me a bag of bits, punch down tool and a comms tester and it was a case of off you go.

Thankfully I have done a fair bit of data and comms whikle in NZ but didnt want to admit too much in case I stuffed things up. Thankfully it all came back to me and everything worked fine.

anyone else ever do this kind of stuff?

 

[kme]

Yeah - don`t mind doing cat5, but if the spec is for cat 6/6E;I tend to farm it out.

 

[revjames]

I did a lot of this stuff in NZ, mainly cat 5 and 5e structured cabling systems and PABX installs etc. Cat 6 was just coming in when I left. Cat6 has a plastic ctoss shaped former in the cable to separate the 4 pairs and I'm guessing 6e has the pairs glued like the 5e?

 

[jdmjrmdam]

It's interesting how my sparks don't. I bought a new build off plan about 6 years ago and it was a real effort persuading the developers to install structured data cabling for me. Eventually got it done because one of the sparks on site got wind of my request and did it because he was interested. I took responibility for testing it.

IMO data cabling is essential in domestic situations now and a no brainer when its a new build or a refurb. Put in 4 or 5 cables along with a couple of CT100 to every room from a handy central location and jobs a goodun for voice,data and with some gizmos A/V.

 

[Couleddie]

Always getting asked to bung some network cables in. Crimping those Cat5 plugs is one of my most hated jobs. Still, serves me right for having the crimper.

 

[wozz]

done loads during my apprenticeship we done everything but testing and connecting fibre. Would love to do more of it, but not much call for it from my customers, could relly do with getting more of it.

 

[revjames]

I enjoy doing it, makes a nice change from time to time and people think you are really clever when in fact theres nothing to it!

 

[Lurch]

Done loads, not much call for it in most domestics yet, maybe the odd bit here and there. Most of it's going wireless for domestic networked equipment anyway so it's sort of been and gone to some extent. Most of my structured cabling is commercial, cat5e\cat6 and the comms. We also do ISP services and IP CCTV.

Cat6 has a plastic ctoss shaped former in the cable to separate the 4 pairs and I'm guessing 6e has the pairs glued like the 5e?

5e doesn't have glued pairs and there isn't a 6e yet. The 5e is essentially the same as 5 with a different twist formation allowing greater bandwidth.

 

[revjames]

I put 1000s of outlets in when working in NZ and cat 5 was 4 twisted pairs and 5e (enhanced) was the same except the individual pairs were glued to reduce crosstalk and improve impedance issues. I only mentioned 6e in reference to post above. Will have to check it out

 

[musicspark]

I enjoy doing it, makes a nice change from time to time and people think you are really clever when in fact theres nothing to it!

Well I'm clueless!

So where do I start?

Where do I get a cash course?

I don't know how to terminate it?

Is the same as phone cables, (punch down tool)?

Got any pics anyone?

 

[DarkInferno]

In cat5e the pairs each have a different twist rate so there is less crosstalk. Its not glued.

I do a fair bit of all the way up to multi gigabit stuff.

I tested about 600 ports last week, and installed a 16 core 10gig fibre

 

[musicspark]

In cat5e the pairs each have a different twist rate so there is less crosstalk. Its not glued.I do a fair bit of all the way up to multi gigabit stuff.

I tested about 600 ports last week, and installed a 16 core 10gig fibre

Please help me I'm sooooo confused? :| ?:|

 

[M107]

6e has been jumped & now on to cat7

Have a 500mtr roll in stock ready for an upcomming job.

 

[Lurch]

6e has been jumped & now on to cat7

5e, 6 and 7 will be around for a while yet. There could be a 6e emerge at some point in the future.

For most jobs 5e is still more than adequate, 6 is liable to last a bit longer in terms of 'current spec' and 7 is mostly overkill unless you have machines at the end of it that can handle the data rates. Most current large office environments will struggle to reach the limits of a cat6 install.

 

[M107]

The job I have is more a testing job for a potential future use.

My customer is wanting to see if it's possible for poe upto 300mtrs (resiliance of systems is the keywording apparently) to a remote nodewhich is normaly battery operated but batts will only last 4hrs. All so they can create a mesh at a major incident.

something to look forward to

 

[musicspark]

Well I'm clueless!So where do I start?

Where do I get a cash course?

I don't know how to terminate it?

Is the same as phone cables, (punch down tool)?

Got any pics anyone?

so nobody wants to help me get started with data cabling?

:_| :_| :_| :_| so unlike this forum! :coat

 

[revjames]

Where and what is the glued stuff then? It was pretty much all I used in NZ.

 

[jdmjrmdam]

The job I have is more a testing job for a potential future use.My customer is wanting to see if it's possible for poe upto 300mtrs (resiliance of systems is the keywording apparently) to a remote nodewhich is normaly battery operated but batts will only last 4hrs. All so they can create a mesh at a major incident.

something to look forward to

That an interesting one? Do they also need Ethernet connectivity for the device or just power?

 

[revjames]

Its not rocket science, run it separate from t&e, plenty of info on terminations on internet in fact most RJ45 outlets have the colurs on the terminals. Some use BT type punch down some a different type, both available at most elec wholesalers.

 

[jdmjrmdam]

Here's a reasonable introduction.

http://www.swhowto.com/CAT5_Ch1.htm

and

https://www.youtube.com/embed/3wdDRtGLiow?feature=oembed