Electric Bills ..just Wondering .

[Evans Electric]

Just had the latest bill in and started wondering what everyone pays for leckie across the Forum spectrum  without going to G0-Compare  or whatever , thought this would be more straightforward.

So ,I'm in the Midlands , with Npower , paying 16.02 p  per KWh    ( For electric only , gas seperate)

Standing charge  10.96p  per day .

 

[ProDave]

SSE (in the Highlands) electricity only (gas comes in bottles here)

14.86 pence per KWh (plus VAT of course)

26.1p per day standing charge.

Quarterly bill paid manually on receipt.  The standing charge would be less if I let them bribe me into estimated bills and monthly direct debits.

No fixed contract, no end date and terminate / switch whenever I like.

for my building plot I am about to switth to Ebico in order to get no standing charge (because we are not using anything bar a few tools so bill will be about £0)

 

[NozSpark]

We're with British Gas on a prepayment dual fuel tarriff,, not tied in and we get a £15 credit every year

Electric

Unit rate 14.650p per kWh

Standing charge 26.000p per day

Gas

Unit rate 4.79p/kW

Standing charge 26.0p per day

 

[Evans Electric]

Keep 'em coming guys .

 

[Marvo]

SA Western Cape.

Family of 4 in largish house on prepaid electricity.

We get 35 free units per month because we fall into one of the low consumer tariffs.

For the first 400 units after that we pay ZAR 0.84 per unit.

For units above 435 we get whacked ZAR 2.05 per unit.

There's no standing charges or other costs, the unit price is what we pay. All prices stated include 14% VAT.

Average month we use around 450 units so our electric bill is approx R367.00 (£20.40). This is todays prices, it's worth noting that the price of our electricity has just about quadrupled in the last 5 or 6 years.

We use LPG just for the stove hob which has a 9Kg bottle. All our water heating and room panel heaters, air-con etc is electric. A 9KG LPG bottle lasts around 6 months for cooking so our gas costs about ZAR33.00/month (£1.83/month). The gas price fluctuates wildly because it's linked to the petrol price so this figure is only approximate.

Total household energy costs R400.00/month (about £22.00)

 

[Blue Duck]

Leckie 11.6p per kWh and 16p standing charge.

Gas :C

Am with eon online tariff.

I had neglected my online account for some time and forgotten the password when I reset the password the mothly DD went down £37!

 

[revjames]

First utility - about £200/y saving from scottish power, my previous supplier    

My current tariff iSave Fixed v23 August 2015 Direct Debit ebill

 
Electricity 13.394p per kWh Standing Charge 15.75p per day
 
Gas Rate  3.638p per kWh  Standing Charge 15.75p per day
 
Personal Projection £1127.36 for the year
All prices are inclusive of VAT at 5%

 

[Marvo]

What is the standing charge for that everyone seems to be paying?

 

[steptoe]

I haver no idea,

I only live here, the wife pays everything using my money,

standing charge?

its what the utility company charges you for using their cable to supply you with electric.

 

[NozSpark]

The utility companies were told to simplify their bills so they did away with the sliding scaled rates and implemented a standing charge instead

 

[Evans Electric]

Up to now its looking like I'm paying the most .

And Marvo in SA  is paying the least .

Marvo , what are the winters like where you are , ours average from , what ..0 deg C   to 5 deg  C  for  Dec , Jan- March  I think . Not sure how acurate that is TBH .       Anyway  very cold & damp , lots of rain , but not so much snow & ice these days .  

Other than Mad Dave of course , up in the Arctic Circle .   

 

[Marvo]

Marvo , what are the winters like where you are , ours average from , what ..0 deg C   to 5 deg  C  for  Dec , Jan- March  I think . Not sure how acurate that is TBH .       Anyway  very cold & damp , lots of rain , but not so much snow & ice these days ....

In Cape Town it gets chilly and rainy in July and Aug, I'd guess average mid winter temps are around 8-15 degrees C with rain at least for a day or two most weeks. We don't get frost or snow or anything like that, the coldest nighttime temp would be 7 or 8 degrees. I guess the climate would be comparable to Mediterranean, maybe South coast of France or Spain. I have a couple of heatpump air-con units in the bedrooms and the lounge and all the other rooms have a cheap panel heater. We only use the heating for the 3 months of winter. 

 

[Marvo]

...And Marvo in SA  is paying the least .

Not everyone in SA is paying as little as us, the reason our electricity is fairly cheap is because I went bezerk and cut our consumption to around 45% of what it was several years ago. The tumble dryer went to the local dump, I removed the 12kW pool heater and installed solar, also LED's and CFL's throughout the house etc etc. Consequently we ended up on a low consumption tariff that's actually designed to benefit the poorer sector of our society. If we go 3 months in succession with a consumption of >450kwh we'll lose our free unit allocation and be put onto a different tariff with a much higher unit price. We're hanging on to the lower tariff by the skin of our teeth, most of the people I know are on a more 'middle class' tariff and their electricity is costing them around R1000.00 - R1500.00 per month. 

 

[apprentice87]

So, basically then, we all ought to move to cape town, because although the Marvo will not have the heating bills we do, their electricity is unbelievably cheap compared to ours...

Marvo, what does SA use for powerstations, is it coal, [presumably...]

john....

 

[Steve3948]

I pay £120 per month for Gas and Electric.

In credit during summer and balances out during winter.

 

[Sharpend]

Should we import our electric from SA!!! :slap

 

[Marvo]

So, basically then, we all ought to move to cape town, because although the Marvo will not have the heating bills we do, their electricity is unbelievably cheap compared to ours...

Marvo, what does SA use for powerstations, is it coal, [presumably...]

john....

It might sound cheap to you but as I mentioned the unit price of power has quadrupled in 6 years and there's further large increases imminent in the near future plus my electric bill is not a representation of the local middle class domestic average. The reason my bill is so cheap is that I've managed to get my consumption low enough to get what are probably subsidised prices intended to benefit the large number of low-income 'previously disadvantaged' sector of our society. 

The SA power infrastructure is old and predominantly coal fired because SA is self sufficient with coal. They are tendering at present for several new nuclear power stations and there's a couple of pebble-bed reactors which should have come on line a couple of years ago but alas the project is running 3-4 years late. At the moment the generation is running at 100% to keep up with demand and large industrial customers are being incentivised to shed load during peak times to avoid a deficit in supply/demand.

To give you some idea how thin the ball-hair is that the entire grid is hanging on by http://m.news24.com/fin24/Economy/Rolling-blackouts-in-countrys-cities-20141102-2. One coal silo collapse at a power station 1500km away results in rolling blackouts across the entire country, including Cape Town, for 3 or 4 days.  

Should we import our electric from SA!!! :slap

Hmmm. We have no spare, we could maybe give you a few hundred Amps as long as it's during our off-peak times . See link above.

 

[Sharpend]

Oh well we'll keep paying the Europeans for our supplies then!

 

[binky]

What is the standing charge for that everyone seems to be paying?

it's a con for hiding the true rate we pay per kW , that's what it is X(

 

[Evans Electric]

Marvo , our main Telecom company does the same , a standing charge to cover maintenance / repairs to your line .   No charge as long as the fault is their side of the Master socket.