Electrician training

[a1]

he's a ****

That's what I was told.

 

[Evans Electric]

I'm still a fireman and want to carry on working while I train. Basically I want to emigrate to Canada and need a trade. I've always liked electrics so thought it would be a good route to take. I can't take the NVQ route as I need to keep working in my current job. I've read elsewhere that you can't qualify through C & G courses alone? Where as some sites state if you do 2391 and 2382 you will become a qualified electrician? Cheers

Canada have their own qualifying tests for electricians , and as far as I remember , you can't practice there without being licensed .

 

[skippy2107]

Yeah I know. Thanks for all of your advice and man love

 

[batty]

loldo you know any other true life vets?

Don't forget Paddy Kirk.

 

[Apache]

Don't forget Paddy Kirk.

who?

He's not on the register.

:|

 

[green-hornet]

he's a ****Don't start me on the RSPCA on a public forum...........

Me too

I have had some problems with the RCPCA's stance on political advise given for things like the dangerous dogs act and hunting with dogs.

There is no such thing as a dangerous dog just irrisponsible owners.

As for the hunting I have always kept working dogs, and I have always used caught prey I see nothing wrong in me working my dogs to put on the table.

However thats another topic which is often clouded by immotions that have no relevence to most people.

I blame watership down

 

[green-hornet]

Oh dear I think we have gone way off topic

 

[Apache]

Oh dear I think we have gone way off topic

have we?

agree with your post above mate

Do you shoot?

 

[green-hornet]

have we?agree with your post above mate

Do you shoot?

Yes I do, my son is far better than me though he is an ex gamekeeper.

He got out of the job because of the european ban on some of the meds used to treat the birds.

Now almost 40% of reared birds die because the rspca.

I love all the vegans, they secretly eat suasages, just watch the film scum!

Proves everything.

 

[Zeespark]

Evan, so long as you notify inspectors and get a ermit to work first, you can do your own wiring in Canada.

AndyGuiness Drink

 

[WarrenG]

Hello Skippy, Welcome to the forum.Yes Mate - I am studying Part-time two Evenings a week.

I am coning to the end of my C&G 2330 now.

I did my 2382-100 last year (17th Edition).

I will be going back in September to do my 2392

And them I will do my 2391. I was originally going to do the C&G PAT Course, but with the charges being so low for PAT, and the cost of the course so high, I decided to "Put that one on hold".

I am lucky. The course in my college for the 2330 was 2 years. From September it is going to be 3 Years and at a higher cost too.

You will be a qualified electrician - But what I have been told is you need the NVQ 3 and the AM2 to be fully Qualified.

With regards to the emigrating, there are several people in know in that - but there is one that springs top mind - and that is our "Steptoe". Wait 'til he signs in later.

Good Luck in your studies.

I love this one when it pops up.

You would only need an NVQ 3 if you wanted to join the out dated JIB.

There are thousands of qualified electricians that do not hold an NVQ and would never ever entertain one.

 

[Evans Electric]

Evan, so long as you notify inspectors and get a ermit to work first, you can do your own wiring in Canada.AndyGuiness Drink

Who is Evan ?? ?:|

 

[Jono Pashley]

I love this one when it pops up. You would only need an NVQ 3 if you wanted to join the out dated JIB.

There are thousands of qualified electricians that do not hold an NVQ and would never ever entertain one.

Far as some people are concerned they wont even work with you unless you've done an apprenticeship. Which appears to be the attitude in the darker reaches of the internet.

 

[WarrenG]

Far as some people are concerned they wont even work with you unless you've done an apprenticeship. Which appears to be the attitude in the darker reaches of the internet.

Yes it is a very old-hat way of thinking and a downfall in my opinion.

Its stange that some old sparks who did a 4 yr apprenticeship years ago believe that that is all they ever need to do.

Certainly worked with sparks that have never done any other training since and still have the 15th Edition. Very good sparks but a bit out of touch with todays standards.

 

[green-hornet]

I have to agree, I know I needed extra training to come up to current regulations.

There would appear to be some kind of electrical snobbery with which way you get the qualifications.

One of the best electricians I have employed had no qualifications, he started as a labourer and then an electricians mate.

I could leave him on any job and know he would do it right.

One day I was called to a job where a fully qualified electrician had refused to do something that he had told him should be done,when I got there the only reason why the electrician refused was because the electricians mate had no certificates and was not going to be told what to do.

Shame really the electricians mate had been on the tools for about 20years the fully qualified electrician about a year.

I would place experiance above certs every time.

The qualified spark left after 3 weeks, he did not get on with anyone on site.

Arrogance breeds contempt

 

[Apache]

I would place experience above certs every time.

Horny - you speak wise words, but not sure I totally agree with you.

You need both theoretical learning AND experience

IMO

 

[Jono Pashley]

I have to agree, I know I needed extra training to come up to current regulations.There would appear to be some kind of electrical snobbery with which way you get the qualifications.

One of the best electricians I have employed had no qualifications, he started as a labourer and then an electricians mate.

I could leave him on any job and know he would do it right.

One day I was called to a job where a fully qualified electrician had refused to do something that he had told him should be done,when I got there the only reason why the electrician refused was because the electricians mate had no certificates and was not going to be told what to do.

Shame really the electricians mate had been on the tools for about 20years the fully qualified electrician about a year.

I would place experiance above certs every time.

The qualified spark left after 3 weeks, he did not get on with anyone on site.

Arrogance breeds contempt

Very true words from Mr Hornet. Our college tutor holds a technicians card etc, one day he was digging out a trench on site, another spark turns up, he asks if hes gonna give him a hand block turns round "Im an Approved Electrician i dont dig trenches thats a laborers job".

Way i see it if a job needs doing it has to get done doesnt matter what your job title is.

 

[The Godfather]

There would appear to be some kind of electrical snobbery with which way you get the qualifications.

One of the best electricians I have employed had no qualifications, he started as a labourer and then an electricians mate.

I could leave him on any job and know he would do it right.

The Godfather

 

[Evans Electric]

Horny does indeed speak wise words (he usually does) There is a two way snobbery where the ancient mariner resents the highly qualified young upstart and vice-versa the highly qualified will decry the old stager as a has been. A meeting of minds somewhere in the middle would be desireable.

I have to say that I've seen quite a few experienced sparks giving an apprentice a hard time , usually to cover their own inadequacies. Sometimes robbing a youngster of any confidence , and causing them to dislike coming to work, like the school bully really. I think we succeeded in stopping it in most cases.

 

[green-hornet]

Horny - you speak wise words, but not sure I totally agree with you.You need both theoretical learning AND experience

IMO

Very true but only if you are going to be left to your own devises.

Many larger installations will have a detailed plan and specs that are for all to follow.

The theory and regulations side would have been conducted at the initial planning and design stage.

I have seen some electricians mates run rings around fully qualified electricians.