Enclosure

[m4tty]

Hi,

What does everybody use at the main downlighter junction (where the 3 plate is) if wiring this way, where there are extractor fans involved and mirror lights.  So say you have possibly 6-7 1.5mm T&Es and need to get the wagos/connector blocks into an encosure.  Wont fit in choc box or wagobox so looking for an enclosure which fits through the 70mm downlighter hole.

Seen many where they think the ceiling void is 'the enclosure' lol 

Any thoughts please

Cheers

 

[wozz]

Id do everything I could to avoid having that many to join.

I reckon you will end up with a adaptable box in the loft if accessible.  

Or you could move (extend) the feeds to get them in a wall and use a 47mm box and a blank plate. 

http://www.hager.co.uk/products/wiring-accessories/junction-boxes/downlighter-junction-box/features/12410.htm

Doubt it would be too handle 7 x 1.5mms though!

 

[Evans Electric]

On new builds or extensions , because of all the downlights used these days ,  I fit full depth sw boxes and 3 plate or DP at the switches .

If the number of connections get out of hand I'll sometimes fit a twin box at high level with a blank lid , do it all in there.    Loft space I fix a ceiling rose over bathroom. 

Denmans have a long  slim connector box ,fit your own connectors , that will go through a 70mm hole.   Never used them TBH but look useful.    

Edit :-  That Hager JB looks useful.

 

[betty swollocks]

Why not use 2 wago boxes side by side? Easy get 4 in each linked as/if required

 

[ProDave]

And one reason why I virtually never use 1.5 for lighting circuits. 1.0 is a lot easier.

 

[Steve3948]

+ 1 for 1.0mm, only use 1.5mm if first run is a distance. I remember someone on here always uses 2.5mm must be a right mare.

 

[betty swollocks]

I've had eight 1mm cables in a wago box once does that count as bunching?

 

[binky]

Ashley downlighter JB is best option. Won't be easy with 7 cables, but should just about go in.

 

[husky2013]

we have used the Hager boxes mentioned above and they are very good indeed

we have also used the Wago boxes which again are very good....

having 7 cables together for downlighters  i can only recommend the same as others have mentioned, 47mm and blanking plate.. or a smallish polycarb enclosure in loft space

 

[m4tty]

No loft space as its downstairs thanks for all the replies as usual great advice peeps cheers

 

[Blue Duck]

What about an adapatable box with a din rail and some of these http://www.wago.com/cps/rde/xchg/SID-69A8E4D2-F9DF94DD/wago/style.xsl/eng-278.htm

 

[m4tty]

What about an adapatable box with a din rail and some of these http://www.wago.com/cps/rde/xchg/SID-69A8E4D2-F9DF94DD/wago/style.xsl/eng-278.htm

What adaptable box will go through a 72mm downlighter hole

 

[Blue Duck]

Well they are adaptable aren't they? Hehe.

got a pretty small one in the van not sure if it will fit a 70mm hole?

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

I had a job today like this . Bathroom ceiling, flat roof above with 5 tw&e & 2, 3c&e. I used 2 chocboxes with a small 3c link between,  to speed things up i used Wago connectors

 

[Blue Duck]

There are also these http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/TLCT100C.html

 

[m4tty]

Link dead mate

 

[Jono Pashley]

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/TLCT100C.html

his link was missing the L off htm.

Used these myself on a couple of jobs, where i monkeys hadnt finished with the ceilings. Pretty decent at what they do. Wouldnt want to try and get 6-7 T=+E into them tho.

 

[springcrocus]

I always daisy-chain downlighters using Click-flo connectors. Biggest advantages are you can pre-wire the loom sitting comfortably on your toolbox instead of in the loft or, if between floors, cables through joist holes and wire from above (again sitting on the toolbox) and then you end up with a single connection to the existing lighting point. To test the circuit prior to assembly, your pre-wired test plug will slot neatly into the last socket on the daisy-chain and then go back into your toolbox ready for your next downlighter install.