extractor fan isolator switch

[kme]

And we haven`t even considered CDM yet?

 

[steptoe]

EAWR are always applicable.

like I said,

why dont you actually train as something instead of pretending to be a spark,

FFS even John Wayne woulda done better.

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has a post went missing somewhere?

 

[kme]

Don`t think so bud. Why?

 

[springcrocus]

EAWR are always applicable.like I said,

why dont you actually train as something instead of pretending to be a spark,

FFS even John Wayne woulda done better.

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has a post went missing somewhere?

I think so, Steps, just above yours.

 

[steptoe]

I think so, Steps, just above yours.

thanks springcrocus,

that was a quick delete though.?! (not from you, from spin)

 

[springcrocus]

Indeed!

 

[kme]

Ladies and mentalmen...................

I believe the spinster has left the buildng.

 

[steptoe]

:coat

 

[spinlondon]

I do wish people would learn to read.

All I have done, is to request clarification as to how work related legislation has any bearing on the installation of an isolator for an extract fan in a domestic bathroom.

I have not argued against the installation of an isolator, nor have I argued for the installation of one.

I am just querying the relavance of the Regulations cited by Sidewinder.

If members want to take umbarage with my request for clarification, then perhaps they should re-consider the purpose of a discussion forum, which is what I am under the impression this forum is.

As to why some members feel the need to make insulting remarks, I have no idea.

 

[NozSpark]

I do wish people would learn to read.All I have done, is to request clarification as to how work related legislation has any bearing on the installation of an isolator for an extract fan in a domestic bathroom.

I have not argued against the installation of an isolator, nor have I argued for the installation of one.

I am just querying the relavance of the Regulations cited by Sidewinder.

If members want to take umbarage with my request for clarification, then perhaps they should re-consider the purpose of a discussion forum, which is what I am under the impression this forum is.

As to why some members feel the need to make insulting remarks, I have no idea.

So instead of sitting on the fence and asking others to justify their opinion.... what you think?

 

[revjames]

Its getting late........

 

[kme]

I, for one, haven`t taken umbrage (sic) at anything. Can`t speak for anyone else mate.

I was of the understanding that those regs came into force by virtue of the fact that we are working in the said property/room, so even though they may not apply afterwards, they would be referencial whilst work was being carried out at the premises.

This isn`t my area of expertise (which is why I have a professional in these matters as a business contact ), so I stand to be corrected. That is simply my viewpoint on the regs snakey brought up.

KME

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Its getting late........

I know that song........

"We`ve got tonight" (Who needs tomorrow?). Duet - nice version by thingy & whatsername

 

[steptoe]

I, for one, haven`t taken umbrage (sic) at anything. Can`t speak for anyone else mate.I was of the understanding that those regs came into force by virtue of the fact that we are working in the said property/room, so even though they may not apply afterwards, they would be referencial whilst work was being carried out at the premises.

This isn`t my area of expertise (which is why I have a professional in these matters as a business contact ), so I stand to be corrected. That is simply my viewpoint on the regs snakey brought up.

KME

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I know that song........

"We`ve got tonight" (Who needs tomorrow?). Duet - nice version by thingy & whatsername

Bob Seger .?

 

[Manator]

I do not like to take sides, but I fail to see any point, you either agree or disagree and put forward your thoughts, you never know you may have some we have yet to consider. I believe this forum can help those who think they know learn something and those who dont know, learn something but only if the debate had a direction, your argument at this point does not.

The fact that any isolation is required regardless of location is down to design and risk assessment, its use, and the intended user.

A good practice is to include local isolation for any equipment that has a live permanant feed, this is for safe isolation during maintenance, without the inconveniance of any shut down of related circuits. A bathroom fan will be wired 99% of the time to the upstairs lighting circuit, it would be assumed that should a fault occur it would be unacceptable to have a full circuit shut down because of one item of equipment, it would also be assumed that insufficient isolation be present if as an electrician you was asked to work on the defective equipment during twilight hours. When working in any domestic house you are in your normal working environment, which now becomes a place of work, and as such is now subject to regulations other than Part P and BS 7671. Try making a claim for injury, insurance companies are more on the ball with regulations than we are.

 

[spinlondon]

Ok Manator, my thoughts are such:

There is no requirement in the Regulations cited by Sidewinder for the provision of local isolation for a domestic bathroom isolator fan.

I have already indicated in an earlier post that pull cord isolator switches with neons are available.

 

[Watchdog]

Going around in circles is making me dizzy. Fit an isolator. Thread closed.

 

[Manator]

There are 4 functions of isolation

Isolation and switching: The four functions

Isolation:

Purpose: To enable electrical work to be carried out safely on the isolated circuit or

equipment

For: An electrically-skilled or supervised person.

Switching off for mechanical maintenance:

Purpose: To enable non-electrical work to be carried out safely on the switched

circuit or equipment

For: Non electrically-skilled persons

Functional switching:

Purpose: To enable proper functioning and control of electrical equipment

For: The user of the installation

Emergency switching:

Purpose: To cut off rapidly electrical energy to remove an unexpected hazard

For: Anyone

Taken from wiring matters 2007

 

[Mr Smith]

some members seem to have an unhealthy delight

in playing

devils advocate

over and above the norms

i am sure the moderation team

as a whole

would encourage and respect

a little self restraint here and there

i like to be a

nice

moderator

but it is not in my nature

therefore i do not post

unless i feel it is warranted

children are allowed

and even expected

to be irksome

adults are not

please remember this

thank you

mr smith