Funny results with my amaturish testing :)

[kme]

use a neon screwdriver Deke

:O:O

"Deathtraps-r-us". Neon drivers should be banned / outlawed / hung

Or even all 3.

IMOGuiness Drink

 

[Andy™]

:O:O"Deathtraps-r-us". Neon drivers should be banned / outlawed / hung

Or even all 3.

IMOGuiness Drink

maybe the people who use them should get the same punishment

GS38 etc all says leads should be double insulated, fused etc etc....

....then you get a neon screwdriver which uses your body as part of the test circuit. which bright spark came up with that!

 

[Apache]

Patch I think it may be easier for you if you use that radial you mentioned. Switched spur , 3 amp fuse, nice and easy. The other way you could be connecting to the strappers or a live and switch wire etc. You just need to verify that polarity is correct on your lighting, use a neon screwdriver at the switches ( in the on position in case its switching the neutral)Deke

Have decided to use the radial. Will be easier.

:O:O"Deathtraps-r-us". Neon drivers should be banned / outlawed / hung

Or even all 3.

IMOGuiness Drink

I have a non-contact volt alert, a multimeter and a T50 voltage testing thingy. Don't fancy been the path to earth. Think I can test for current without a neon screwdriver



Thanks for help on this thread guys.

 

[SPECIAL LOCATION]

Have decided to use the radial. Will be easier.

INDEED! I didn't realise your sockets came though the roof & down walls!

I have a non-contact volt alert' date=' a multimeter and a T50 voltage testing thingy. Don't fancy been the path to earth. Think I can test for current without a neon screwdriver



Thanks for help on this thread guys. [/quote']

 

[Apache]

INDEED! I didn't realise your sockets came though the roof & down walls!

yes they do.

My security PIR light is knackered again ~6months this time. Gonna have to get a decent one

 

[Evans Electric]

Pulled over by the police yesterday, run a red light then over a Zebra with a pedestrian on it, 20 points over the Drink limit, faulty brakes, no lights, two illegal immigrants in the back sitting on my delivery of 300 kg of crack-cocaine while driving south on the M6 north at 95 MPH with a tank full of red diesel . They are , however dropping those charges for something worse. On searching my toolbox they found a neon screwdriver and a Voltstick along with my BS ,fused lead testers. I appear at the Old Bailey next week before Hanging Judge Jeffries , anyone know a good barrister ?

Deke

 

[Apache]

Just an update - T off the upstairs radial with a Sw FCU (3A fuse) and now have light in my loft. :^O

After a bit of rooting about under nasty itchy insulation the wires I found initially were switched lives! Blushing

Thanks for everyones help on this thread

have a beerGuiness Drink

 

[Evans Electric]

Ah but did you check the polarity, Patch ? And did you use a ( dare I say it) neon ??

Deke

 

[Apache]

Ah but did you check the polarity, Patch ? And did you use a ( dare I say it) neon ?? Deke

No & No

But no polarity issues with radial - I have a socket tester

 

[steptoe]

maybe the people who use them should get the same punishmentGS38 etc all says leads should be double insulated, fused etc etc....

....then you get a neon screwdriver which uses your body as part of the test circuit. which bright spark came up with that!

should i bring my own rope.........

when someone comes up with a simpler,easier faster way to find a broken N without an E reference then I'll be glad to reconsider my NEON, until then it will remain my constant companion,

 

[Apache]

should i bring my own rope.........when someone comes up with a simpler,easier faster way to find a broken N without an E reference then I'll be glad to reconsider my NEON, until then it will remain my constant companion,

we missed you

 

[Andy™]

should i bring my own rope.........when someone comes up with a simpler,easier faster way to find a broken N without an E reference then I'll be glad to reconsider my NEON, until then it will remain my constant companion,

get a fluke T series. even the vet has one. they dont need anything to reference with for tell you if its live

 

[Evans Electric]

should i bring my own rope.........when someone comes up with a simpler,easier faster way to find a broken N without an E reference then I'll be glad to reconsider my NEON, until then it will remain my constant companion,

My feelings exactly, thanks Steps . Guiness Drink

 

[fastham]

Sounds to me like your just testing between switch wires that are not marked up.

you need to finfd true live earth and neutral (p & n) to connect into !

 

[steptoe]

get a fluke T series. even the vet has one. they dont need anything to reference with for tell you if its live

please explain, link or summink.

any fancy things i have seen like that either show on any kind of voltage whatsoever, (including induced) or are just too unreliable.

thanks apache.

its just sometimes the old ways are the best, eh Deke? old and simple,,,, like us.

well me anyway.......

 

[Andy™]

please explain, link or summink.any fancy things i have seen like that either show on any kind of voltage whatsoever, (including induced) or are just too unreliable.

thanks apache.

its just sometimes the old ways are the best, eh Deke? old and simple,,,, like us.

well me anyway.......

one of these:

it wont tell you the voltage without both leads connected, but it will make a noise if the the probe touches something live. it can also test phase rotation.

never had any problems with reliability with it. at least you can touch both probes together to make sure its still working, unlike a screwdriver

for more info, see here

 

[steptoe]

oh yes, got one, good for ph rotation(I only have a fluke 1652), pure sh17 for anything else.

as for proving its still working, all you are doing is testing the battery, you cant prove its working without a known voltage source, as with ANY kind of voltage detector.

and it DOES detect induced current.

and it DOES need a referenced E point.

my NEON?????? well all it needs is a clip for my inside pocket(where it lives each and every day) and one of my thumbs.

 

[Andy™]

oh yes, got one, good for ph rotation(I only have a fluke 1652), pure sh17 for anything else. as for proving its still working, all you are doing is testing the battery, you cant prove its working without a known voltage source, as with ANY kind of voltage detector.maybe, but at least shorting the leads will give a continuity reading, so you know that the leads/probes are OK

and it DOES detect induced current.never had a problem with this

and it DOES need a referenced E point.to give a true voltage reading, yes. but it doesnt need anything else to tell you something is live

my NEON?????? well all it needs is a clip for my inside pocket(where it lives each and every day) and one of my thumbsid rather my body wasnt part of the test path... just imaging if that resistor was to fail....

my red

 

[Janice]

Originally Posted by steptoe

oh yes, got one, good for ph rotation(I only have a fluke 1652), pure sh17 for anything else.

as for proving its still working, all you are doing is testing the battery, you cant prove its working without a known voltage source, as with ANY kind of voltage detector.maybe, but at least shorting the leads will give a continuity reading, so you know that the leads/probes are OK

and it DOES detect induced current.never had a problem with this

and it DOES need a referenced E point.to give a true voltage reading, yes. but it doesnt need anything else to tell you something is live

my NEON?????? well all it needs is a clip for my inside pocket(where it lives each and every day) and one of my thumbsid rather my body wasnt part of the test path... just imaging if that resistor was to fail....

my red

First proper post and controversial from the start.

99% or resistors fail open-circuit, not short-circuit, so risk is quite low?

 

[Apache]

First proper post and controversial from the start. 99% or resistors fail open-circuit, not short-circuit, so risk is quite low?

ooh - good point

but it only need to fail once and it's not good if you have a dodgy heart and are stood in a bath full of water