Fused Spur - Concealed?

[Dambo]

Just after a bit of advice on a fused spur query - A customer's having an extension done and he wants some sockets and a light putting in it. There's a feed for one socket going into at the moment from a previous outside socket (ring main). I'm going to extend this ring main to incorporate 2 more double sockets. I'm also going to take a fused spur off this ring main to feed the light. Regarding this fused spur - Can it be concealed (for example in the ceiling) or does it have to be visible?

 

[Andy™]

and how to you plan to access said spur to change the fuse, switch it off, or anything else.....?

 

[m4tty]

No mate if the fuse blew you'd be stuffed. Is got to be on show

 

[Andy™]

also, unless the light switch is to be a dimmer, there is nothing wrong with using a SFCU as the light switch

 

[sanny]

If theres a loft or a cupboard it can go there if not just use the fused spur as the light switch

 

[Andy™]

i would disagree with the loft. who else here thinks 'the light doesnt work. ill check the loft for a fused spur'?

 

[SPECIAL LOCATION]

Definitely easily accessible is the way to go!



As has been said you could use it as a light switch..

BUT.. IMHO that would look dead ugly! :_|

I would most likely mount the FCU next to one of the sockets then take your feed to the lights vertically up the wall from the FCU to get to your ceiling then just carry on wiring as norm!

Probably use a non-switch FCU as well..

only need the fuse for cable protection...

no major urgency for a double pole switch as well!

They can hide the FCU behind a chair or table then...

low down, unobtrusive, outa sight...

better than high up on the wall or on the ceiling..

GuinnessGuinness

 

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[Dambo]

That's me told! Thanks for the advice guys, the 'in the ceiling idea' is definitely out of the window! :coat

 

[sanny]

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[Evans Electric]

Hiding the fuse is not one of your better ideas Damien !!!

 

[Badger]

That's me told! Thanks for the advice guys, the 'in the ceiling idea' is definitely out of the window! :coat

you could install a fast fix box in the ceiling and install that way if thats what you mean?

 

[Dambo]

Hiding the fuse is not one of your better ideas Damien !!!

I can't disagree! ROTFWL

 

[Dambo]

you could install a fast fix box in the ceiling and install that way if thats what you mean?

I was meaning just concealed in the space above the ceiling. That won't be happening now though!

 

[Dambo]

Further to the 'extending the ring main' issue, I was just after another wee bit of best practise advice - When extending a ring main to incorporate another another socket the L, N and E going into one of the sockets on the ring main needs to be removed and will instead go into the additional socket required therefore allowing the ring main to be extended. What i'm wanting to know is if this L, N and E isn't long enough to reach the additional socket and a junction box is required, is it ok to bury this junction box wall?

 

[ianmacd]

Further to the 'extending the ring main' issue, I was just after another wee bit of best practise advice - When extending a ring main to incorporate another another socket the L, N and E going into one of the sockets on the ring main needs to be removed and will instead go into the additional socket required therefore allowing the ring main to be extended. What i'm wanting to know is if this L, N and E isn't long enough to reach the additional socket and a junction box is required, is it ok to bury this junction box wall?

Only perm joints can be inaccessable. So if its wago's then yes....BUT... you can not have a cable run thats not in a safe zone unless its mechanically protected/blah.blah... so just extending some t&e with a wall may not be suitable. If the cable is already at a socket then its possible (if the box is big enough) to extend the cable in the back box of the socket but you willthen have 4 cables goign into the box and need the space to crimp/wago/whatever the connectors in the back box too.

 

[Dambo]

Only perm joints can be inaccessable. So if its wago's then yes....BUT... you can not have a cable run thats not in a safe zone unless its mechanically protected/blah.blah... so just extending some t&e with a wall may not be suitable. If the cable is already at a socket then its possible (if the box is big enough) to extend the cable in the back box of the socket but you willthen have 4 cables goign into the box and need the space to crimp/wago/whatever the connectors in the back box too.

Thanks ianmacd. Extending the cable in the back box might be a good shout. Is a wago the same as a connector box? I haven't heard that term before.

 

[ianmacd]

Thanks ianmacd. Extending the cable in the back box might be a good shout. Is a wago the same as a connector box? I haven't heard that term before.

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Index/Boxes_and_Enclosures_Index/Wago/index.html

Its connectors and someone makes a box for them too.

 

[Dambo]

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Index/Boxes_and_Enclosures_Index/Wago/index.htmlIts connectors and someone makes a box for them too.

Cheers ianmacd. You learn something new everyday!

 

[Badger]

id just crimp the 2 cables together as thats a much better connection but do a crimp joint in the back of a socket so if ever theres a problem or the cables are needed again its acessible