Kitchen Rewire

[a1]

I bid you all a "Good Night".

 

[extension15]

What regulation did he quote?Anyway if you feel this is a problem, cut hole in back panel and secure socket to fabric of installation.........................................................

:^O

You know, the same fabric that the cupboards are secured too......

Applaud Smiley

 

[extension15]

I bid you all a "Good Night".

Nite M8..

:z

 

[kme]

Night all - me off too now.

 

[SPECIAL LOCATION]

Extension, please confirm that it IS ok to put sockets into kitchen cupboards as I was told by my tutor (just passed 17th) that this was no longer the case.Cheers

As has been pointed out on earlier posts..

There is NO regulation that says you cant..

Some guidance books for good practice suggest you shouldn't..

Ultimately it is up to you to decide..

but you must take into account the

Accessibility for inspection & testing.

Security of cable terminations, (no loose cables hanging out bottom of socket)

Keep way from hazardous external influences, (e.g. dripping taps / waste pipes etc..)

Functional; operation of any switches in any emergency

and similar type consdierations...

 

[sirsparkabit]

No ones arguing just pointing out for the sake of perhaps younger less experienced persons that one persons interpretation may not be the ONLY valid interpretation..Furniture is movable end of.. (which personally I don't agree with)

I am of the same commonly held understanding by much of the population..

Including the 'IEE' that furniture can be the Fixed kitchen units.

But I am sure we both have broad enough shoulders so we can agree to disagree! :x

I would just point out for the reference of others reading...

Re: my prevuioius post...

because if the above statement can be read as follows.

"(i) Wiring accessories (e.g. socket-outlets, switches) should be mounted on the building fabric and not on 'movable tables & chairs'."

it just don't make any sense whatsoever!!

Also consider also paragraph (viii) from the same IEE publication..

'kitchen furniture' where integrated appliances are built into...

this is the fixed worktops/units etc..

e.g. an integrated oven is NOT in a movable unit, or on movable furniture..

It is in the Fixed kitchen furniture.

As another note the above book is guidance primarily relating to Domestic installations & Part-P... NOT commercial!.

In fact.. I just scanned the relevant page in so as you can read it yourself..

You can read it here.

IMHO it is obvious to the average person reading section 5.2.2

bullet points (i) and (viii)

and looking at figure 5.2

Kitchen furniture IS referring to the fixed kitchen units!

but as said before this is only IEE guidance

and we all make our own interpretations.

Re para (viii) as far as i can see if fcu or suitable d/p sw are in place for isolation above the units (in wall) if you then fit a s/o in the kitchen unit to feed a intergrated appliance you have not commited a great sin.

If joe now wants to change his units in ten years he has local fixed point of isolation, also a short length of cable which will be easy to dedirect or change if required.

Thanks for a good debate on this one guys.Applaud SmileyApplaud Smiley

I also think that every kitchen fitter in the land will fit thousands of s/o in hundreds of homes this year]

The trouble with guidance is it is just that, If only everthing in life was black and white. :^O :^O:^O