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Frustration levels are up to the ceiling and the college workshop looks like Charlie Sheen's house after a three day coke orgy...

Yep, we've started working on terminating MICC cable :D

I'm enjoying it but it's fiddly as (beeeeep) so i was wondering if anyone has got any good hints and tips to share with regards to working with it? :)

Also, my tutor says it's not very common these days so where would you use it?

 
One reason its not very common these days is the costs!  It may need to be used during remedial works on existing installations. Or possibly in situations where a building structure is listed or protected, prohibiting chasing and sinking cables and accessories, conduit may look too big and ugly, but MICC could be run neater down to accessory level.

Doc H..

 
workshop looks like Charlie Sheen's house after a three day coke orgy...

College certainly sounds like more fun than when i was there.

 
Good idea!

Most exciting thing to happen when i was there was we was shown a bit of the 'new' grey twin we would use one day.

 
I remember strangling some Pyro when i first started, i think it died. Are you using 'proper' strippers or the stick ?

My local independant had a box of MICCC glands and stuff on the counter last week. They said they were leaving it there till the end of the month and then weighing it in if not sold. Just takes up shelf space & never gets asked for it anymore.

/\ I know, too many C's

 
The main use of  MICC (Pyro)  used to be fire alarms .  Replaced by FP200 and other types these days.

We used it a lot years ago , did a whole hospital with it  and  a massive Halls of Residence for B,ham University.  

Also single core to some very big Star-delta motors.

Its non combustible and also carries more current than equivilent size in PVC s  ...a ring main in MICC would be in 1.5 sq/mm  . 

 
Well unless things have changed ( and it is a long time since I worked in one). MICC was one of only a very very few types of cable approved for use in Churches, believe it or not

There even used to be a book published by Church House Publications which listed what you could and could not do in Churches. Connectors had to be porcelain, no fixings onto fresh oak, no drilling of timbers etc. the also used to be subject to a Quintennial Inspection. Prob all changed now and wired in flex!

Just saying.....

 
Last bit of MI I installed was in my garage a few years ago, not used it since & the tools are rattling around in the van somewhere.

 
kerching said:
Well unless things have changed ( and it is a long time since I worked in one). MICC was one of only a very very few types of cable approved for use in Churches, believe it or not

There even used to be a book published by Church House Publications which listed what you could and could not do in Churches. Connectors had to be porcelain, no fixings onto fresh oak, no drilling of timbers etc. the also used to be subject to a Quintennial Inspection. Prob all changed now and wired in flex!

Just saying.....
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Ah  I remember that too , I'd forgotten about that , churches with their own set of rules & regs, as you say , Pyro only.    Now its whatever the Boy Scouts can come up with .

 
Evans Electric said:
Ah  I remember that too , I'd forgotten about that , churches with their own set of rules & regs, as you say , Pyro only.    Now its whatever the Boy Scouts can come up with .
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Does the " lighting and Wiring of Churches " Publication not carry any weight anymore?

Just curious....

 
Used loads of Pyro last year when installing LED feature lighting in Chester city centre up on the rows, It was specified by the conservation officer and was either a black or white PVC oversheath.

Its also used on all the wall mounted lanterns that are mounted around the city centre on the historic buildings. looks really nice when installed and blends into its surroundings well.

 
SLIPSHOD AND SLAPDASH said:
I remember strangling some Pyro when i first started, i think it died. Are you using 'proper' strippers or the stick ?

My local independant had a box of MICCC glands and stuff on the counter last week. They said they were leaving it there till the end of the month and then weighing it in if not sold. Just takes up shelf space & never gets asked for it anymore.

/\ I know, too many C's
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Are there more than one kind of strippers? We're using the one's that kinda looks like a little door handle with another little handle attached to it. Ok that probably wasn't the greatest explanation but I'm tired... :)

poni said:
don't forget to put the shroud on first then the gland and olive,
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I was told not to use the olive. Not sure why. Any ideas?

 
gram1980 said:
Use the olive so they can't take the gland apart and reuse it !
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Thats why ! so they can reuse them.

Theres another thread here with pics of old pyro tools. Its too late to find it but here is my old stripping stick

20121115_201558.jpg

And here is my old Micc straightener

20121115_201526.jpg

The best stripper is the JOI  (how MUCH !!!)

http://www.monstersupplies.co.uk/beta/product/joi-stripper/

Then there was BICC's own stripper which i could never get on with

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BICC-Small-Electricians-Tools-Pyro-Rotary-Stripper-/170967598080

 

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