Micc :)

[Dairyspark]

This block at college we are using mineral insulated cable done a few practice ends so far and it seems to be not bad stuff to work with lol your thoughts on it? Or does it even get used anymore as our lecturer says its kinda being phased out for fp200

Cheers l

Bobby

 

[Zeespark]

You obviously havent worked with the big stuff, and MICC has a better range of sizes and uses compared to the likes of FP any old day of the week.

Andy Guinness

 

[betty swollocks]

I did M.I. At college many many years ago

Since then I've seen it on installations but I've never ever used it, installed it or repaired it

 

[steptoe]

its great stuff,

installed a load of it on the IoM round about 2003 ish IIRC,

installed properly that stuff will outlast cockroaches

 

[kerching]

I've done 1000s of ends....1.5 2 core up to 7 core 2.5

Used to do the AlCuMICC ends.....Ali sheath copper cores absolute sh!te, still got some ends AND loads of old imperial ends as well . I still come across and repair the old stuff.

You get better at it with time, trust me.

 

[batty]

We get a lot of problems with Glis Glis in my area and they love chewing through PVC cables. I have a rewire coming up and they suffer with these critters. I looked at doing loft in MICC but my wholesaler said they really don't get a call for it any more. I have opted for using flex galvanised conduit with TW/E inside. Its 30 years since I last did MICC.

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

Its great stuff but for domestic its hardly ever used. Defiantly in decrease for industrial.

Is it still a requirement for explosive areas ?

 

[M107]

I made off a length last week to terminate to a EX d fitting in a school chemical store.................Another spark advised they rewire to use FP as he didn't think MI was in use any more.

Was an easy £60

 

[Sidewinder]

M are you covered for work in hazardous area under ATEX?

If not you could be in trouble if something goes wrong! ]

 

[Evans Electric]

MI or Pyro as most Sparks know it by , is probably one of the safest cables made . Its non flamable , It carries more current than the same size in PVC , it's temp range is higher , I've seen big single cores in a sub station connecting the power factor stuff, been running for years at a temp you could'nt hold your hand on.

As said, FP has replaced the smaller sizes due to cost and simpler terminations , most sparks I meet these days can't terminate MI.

 

[Sidewinder]

IIRC,

MI was the only thing to survive the Channel Tunnel fire!

 

[Manator]

If funds would allow I would install it any day. Its a far superior cable, I have terminated with just side cutters and a screwdriver (under emergency conditions) and still think its the best cable out there. What I really like about it is the fact that it is tested everytime a connection is made, each pot is tested, and the end result is that the cable may have been tested more than 20 times just on first fix!!!

Not many cables are installed and tested to those standards these days.

 

[revjames]

Mi is great. Last time I used it was 10mm 3C for a garage feed in a domestic property! completely OTT but it was an MOD job.

 

[Sidewinder]

I'm with Manator, I would use it everywhere, but, no one will pay for that quality of workmanship anymore!.

 

[kerching]

Anyone remember the Mole crimper for wedge pots? Still got mine AND still use it!! [still got some wedge pots somewhere as well]

 

[steptoe]

WTF is a mole crimper?

is this one of your funny made up english words? :slap

mine puts 3 little dents in the pot, IIRC.

 

[kerching]

Never seen a Mole crimper!

It was a stub seal to pot crimper AND a wedge inserter. Based upon a set of Mole Grips

I'll see if I can find a pic...

 

[steptoe]

yea yea,

typical english name for vise grips,

I now understand, the name mole grips is a fairly unique mainland UK term I would reckon, Ive always known them as vise grips,

cos TBH Ive never had anything other than genuine ones that were worth having, I suppose its a bit like hoover/vacuum

 

[kerching]

I only called them 'Mole ' grips coz they have 'Mole' written on them, however my 'Vise' Grips get called 'Vise' grips....... :slap

I must concur about Vise grips being the superior product. What is the main difference between the 2 [that in my opinion makes Vise better than Mole]?

 

[Steve3948]

I think the wedge pot got phased out due to coming loose under vibration.

Did miles of it in the 80's Pyro rollers used a lot and the biggest MI required a site made Tee bar of 20mm conduit with slot, liked the tommy gun stripper for the small stuff.

Always called the compound Monkey Muck, did anyone else.