My Name's Elle from Marshall Tufflex

[EllesMT]

Hi All,

I want to know from you guys, the installers, if you'd like to see specialist installation equipment from Marshall Tufflex? Whether it's a brand you trust? Or there's too many established brands already? Concerned about quality or price?

I work within Innovation in the organisation and want to hear from you not the wholesalers.  What do you want to see from a manufacturer, especially one that's be around for 75 years and British made.

Feel free to let us know if you feel something is missing from the industry and what we can do to improve it and make your job easier.

Thanks again,

Elle

 

[M107]

It wouldn't bother me if tools had Marshall Tufflex plastered over them, the price would be the deciding factor 

 

[Blue Duck]

MT is good quality stuff well made, easy to use etc.

Dunno about the specialist stuff I'm down ere with the dregs...

 

[binky]

Nice to know your stuff is still British made.

Here's 1 idea, since the advent of metal domestic boards, fitting lengths of 2" or 3" trunking has become quite normal for me - it's easier than using TRS glands and stupid metal knockouts - I knock the lot out and comply with IP20 by using large trunking. So how about some ready made short lengths complete with end caps, sticky backed, saves carrying long lengths of stuff I don't use much.

 

[Lurch]

That sounds stupid, they should just make boards that are installer friendly. Maybe they could use some sort of non-metallic material?

 

[Evans Electric]

Sounds alright to me .  A pre - made length of 2 x2 or 3 x 3  PVC trunking with a series of oval holes punched out , that would fit on the top of an over - spec'ed  stupid metal board   & cover all the KOs .  With a ready fitted end cap .

The last board I fitted was an Eaton ...good board but had a load of 20mm KOs in the top where I think oval slots would be better  for  domestic use. 

One Marshal Tufflex product I like a lot and is not readily available is their pre-made 90 deg.  conduit bend .  It doesn't have couplers glued on each end like some and looks far better than pulling  a hit & miss right angle over your bony knee . 

Theres one I prepared earlier ...the bend is fitt at the top of the vertical conduit ...you can't see the join .

Cannot think of anything else at the minute other than asking a question of MT ( & others)  Why do the conduit adaptors have a useless bit of plastic moulding on them ...and why do conduit boxes have what appears to be an earth terminal moulded inside .  It gets in the way if you want to fit a locknut in there .  Totally un-necessary ...probably save a million £££s a year by updating the moulding. 

 

[M107]

Nice to know your stuff is still British made.

Here's 1 idea, since the advent of metal domestic boards, fitting lengths of 2" or 3" trunking has become quite normal for me - it's easier than using TRS glands and stupid metal knockouts - I knock the lot out and comply with IP20 by using large trunking. So how about some ready made short lengths complete with end caps, sticky backed, saves carrying long lengths of stuff I don't use much.

Now that is a blinding idea.....

 

[UNG]

Here's 1 idea, since the advent of metal domestic boards, fitting lengths of 2" or 3" trunking has become quite normal for me - it's easier than using TRS glands and stupid metal knockouts - I knock the lot out and comply with IP20 by using large trunking. So how about some ready made short lengths complete with end caps, sticky backed, saves carrying long lengths of stuff I don't use much.

Not a new idea I think it was EGAtube who did it back in the 1980's. 450 - 600mm of 50 x 50 trunking with oval knockouts along each side and end caps it wasn't sticky back though

As EGA were swallowed up many years ago not sure it would be still made then again it wasn't a fast mover back then

 

[Evans Electric]

Those metal boards are fine for industrial use ...utterly stupid for domestic  IMO.   They're OK if all the cables are rear entry .   I find myself looking at plastic boards now & thinking , how come you hav'nt burst into flames by now . ? 

 

[Blue Duck]

That sounds stupid, they should just make boards that are installer friendly. Maybe they could use some sort of non-metallic material?

Kryptonite ?

They haven't done very well with plastic or metal, would have been better off using cheese.

Maybe MT could make a non flamable installer friendy consumer unit?

 

[binky]

That sounds stupid, they should just make boards that are installer friendly. Maybe they could use some sort of non-metallic material?

Metal boards or my installation methods @Lurch ? :slap

It is stupid, but having been given stupid metal boards I have foung the use of trunking makes life easier, it complies with regs, and it amuses me that it defeats half the object of metal boards. :innocent

 

[kerching]

I use the Falcon 4 x 2 trunking for on top of/beneath boards

makes a neat job, allows a sweep into the board 

handy for putting tails in

endcaps fit well

BUT....I do try to steer clear of Domestic 

 

[Lurch]

TBF I often used a bit of trunking anyway, handy for dressing cables in when there's more than just a couple of circuits. My biggest issue with metal boards is the cable entries are terrible, and they all supply completely useless grommet strip forcing you to do it some other way, which is stupid because if you have to buy a consumer unit and then some sort of fitting kit from another manufacturer then that must the board is badly designed/rushed out after a knee jerk reg change.

Also, the bloody flaps that are hinged at the top, winds me right up.

So yeah, a bit of premade trunking would be handy, but it should come with the board, maybe be attached to it, like, I dunno, across the top panel. I don't even know we have non-combustible boards, not sure what they achieve, or why we can't have a plastic top for cable entry.

 

[binky]

bring back bakerlite :^O

 

[steptoe]

bring back bakerlite :^O

Or wood,!!!!

Have you ever tried to burn those wooden boards,?

You'd need a BFO furnace or an industrial incinerator, they're like the cockroaches of CU, you can't destroy them,,,,,

 

[kerching]

When Trump hits the Big Red Button that has Do Not touch written on it, after the smoke has cleared, there will be little or nothing left other than

cockroaches,

the bunch of W️S that put us there in the first place

Estate Agents

Michael,from Microsoft/TalkTalk legal dept 

wylex wooden boards

Certsure

A while back I put a MAPP Gas torch on a Wylex board 

the board looked back at me and said "is that the best you have...bring it on!"

 

[binky]

enviromentally friendly is wood.

 

[Blue Duck]

enviromentally friendly is wood.

It's more expensive than plastic or Chineseium steel.

 

[Tony S]

A while back I put a MAPP Gas torch on a Wylex board 

the board looked back at me and said "is that the best you have...bring it on!"

An hour and a half on a coal fire and the damn thing was still laughing at me. They are indestructible!