Perimeter Intruder Warning

[Robin Spark]

Guys,

need your help please to some ideas on what to install, so hope you can follow the scenario:

Detached bungalow where an intruder has come onto the property from rear of the garden and attacked female home owner.  Although no issues at the moment, the driveway which comes in at 45deg to front of property is secluded from other properties with trees and bushes and so needs protection.

Currently no landline has been installed (just using mobile phone) and there are no outside lights.  However there is an ADE accenta mini intruder alarm and most of the property has been rewired including loft conversion, therefore cable runs might be difficult.

Looking at installing as a minimum

• 1PIR floodlight to rear of property
• 1 PIR floodlight towards the driveway
• and maybe another light near to the car on the drive as you cannot see it from the bungalow

So where I am needing assistance, is for the resident to get an early warning with an internal sounder or chime etc in addition to the lights coming on in that area.

She does get cats and foxes in the garden, so I dont want anything that will be going off every 5 minutes and making her more panicky than she currently is!

Hope you guys can help, thanks!

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

This sort of beam detector fitted at a height animals wont set it off ?

http://www.onlinesecurityproducts.co.uk/infra-red-beams/40metre-dual-infrared-beam.html?gclid=CMPXs4aEhbcCFfQZtAodYV8AGw

 

[Apache]

Hawthorn hedge, rose bushes and pea gravel are burglars worst nightmare.

 

[binky]

or a dog.

 

[buddha]

a visible cctv camera is often a deterent

 

[NozSpark]

From what I know,,, and it isn't much , burglars hate open well lit spaces especially if the area has noisy gravel and a dog; which is a much better deterrent than an alarm!

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

Last month i fitted one of these a customer had bought

http://www.pennylaneelectrical.co.uk/esp-guardcam-security-light-with-built-in-pir-esp-guardcam-p-1214.html

Well made bit of kit, led flood and you can select silent, a barking dog or a warning message to be broadcast when its activated. It also can record video or images onto a memory card. That bit is a bit  laborious as you have to remove it for viewing so i suppose its for  remote use. At least you dont have to feed the barking dog & it wont crap on your lawn.

That link is to an older model with a halogen flood

 

[col]

Cheap decoy cameras are as good a deterrent as working ones with no cable runs.

 

[Robin Spark]

This sort of beam detector fitted at a height animals wont set it off ?

http://www.onlinesecurityproducts.co.uk/infra-red-beams/40metre-dual-infrared-beam.html?gclid=CMPXs4aEhbcCFfQZtAodYV8AGw

Slips thanks for the idea,  i thought I had replied last night but now cant see my post :C  so i wasnt being ignorant.

With these beam sensors are they connected to the panel the same as a standard pir?

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

Yep they can, but would you want a broken beam in the garden activating the house alarm. Better on an independant system in my view 

 

[Robin Spark]

Last month i fitted one of these a customer had bought

http://www.pennylaneelectrical.co.uk/esp-guardcam-security-light-with-built-in-pir-esp-guardcam-p-1214.html

Well made bit of kit, led flood and you can select silent, a barking dog or a warning message to be broadcast when its activated. It also can record video or images onto a memory card. That bit is a bit  laborious as you have to remove it for viewing so i suppose its for  remote use. At least you dont have to feed the barking dog & it wont crap on your lawn.

That link is to an older model with a halogen flood

Haha!  Was looking at one of these in the wholesaler this morning (have you been watching me?).

Can you give me some feedback on quality of pics/ images are they good enough for police evidence if it was somebody known to them?

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

Just found this   

https://www.youtube.com/embed/wjKc6t_R9ko?feature=oembed  No idea how good  it is.

Sorry no idea of quality on the camera, left that to the owner. Its a bit of a pain to access  as you have to unscrew a flap to remove the card or pull a rubber plug out to insert a mini usb (that cant be left in)

 

[steptoe]

brilliant, but I think they are short selling it about keeping a large alasatian on a boat bit!  :|

 

[Robin Spark]

Yep they can, but would you want a broken beam in the garden activating the house alarm. Better on an independant system in my view 

Was thinking about this and need to look at programming options on this Accenta panel, maybe have the zone for beams on a part set or chime only for when this lady is at home.

What I am trying to achieve is for this lady to get an early warning that someone is outside so that she can get on the phone quickly if needed.

Slips when you say "independant system" is there something you have in mind?

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

Not really.Alarm  panels are cheaper than half the gadgets nowadays.

 

[kme]

I`d concur with `pache, too - we`ve got two yuccas in the lawn - brush pash `em, and they sting like a bar steward.

Combined with cctv (real or dummy), and a decent bit of PIR lighting, properly set up - happy daze.

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

I`d concur with `pache, too - we`ve got two yuccas in the lawn - brush pash `em, and they sting like a bar steward.

I had two of those until the year before's snow killed em off. Was going to replace them until i saw they  would cost around  £350 each !!!! Planted a load of Daffs instead.

 

[kme]

DAMN!!!!

Have to get `em on ebay - maybe all the money she spent on the garden wasn`t wasted, after all :slap

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

Mine were about 15 years old, about 5ft tall. They had been in pots until about 3 years earlier so weren't strong enough to survive the long snow fall. Everyone i know lost theirs also that year  .