symbols on building plans

[Theorysparky]

I can normally read plans ok but i think this guy (architect) has made these up

the symbol he is using for a socket outlet is a half circle with a dot on the outer edge then a line (two of these side by side)

he has the same symbols again but blacked out again two of them these appear either side of the cooker

any ideas

by the way there is no a key on the plans

 

[sparkytim]

Not made up the half circle with dot and line is a switched socket, double is 2 side by side and the blacked out ones are FCUs.

Blacked out circle with line is light switch, sgiggly line is pull switch

 

[Theorysparky]

Not made up the half circle with dot and line is a switched socket, double is 2 side by side and the blacked out ones are FCUs.Blacked out circle with line is light switch, sgiggly line is pull switch

cheers Tim

are these found on certain types of software ??/

i thought there was a industry standard

 

[PC Electrics]

I would say that is very basic. Any engineering drawing should have a key. When I were an automotive engineer I would never have issued a drawing without one.

I would be very tempted to reject the drawing as incomplete and request a key. Don't leave any room for ambiguity, especially if you could end up wrong.

 

[sparkytim]

Back cover of On site guide, but often there are "variations".

 

[PC Electrics]

If he has used symbols from a standard, then instead of a key the drawing should contain a reference to that standard in the notes. A key should still be used for any non standard symbols.

 

[Theorysparky]

Back cover of On site guide, but often there are "variations".

thats where i looked initially

i have read commercial diagrams and it was obvious what was going on without a key.

 

[Theorysparky]

here are the plans

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm34/spinnekar/30-06-2010203308.jpg

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm34/spinnekar/30-06-2010210338.jpg

 

[sparkytim]

Yup they look pretty standard, circle with cross is probably recessed down light, S is smoke alarm, maybe the key is on another page?

 

[Theorysparky]

but not OSG standard which confused me

so what programs use this or is it an industry accepted format

need to find the key,,,,feeling like pratt at the mo... :^O

 

[sparkytim]

Not sure of programs but yes I think you will find this is fairley standard.

To be honest the plans I have worked from have normally had key, but without it You should be able to work out most of them, if there are any on there you are not sure of post them up and we will try and assist.

 

[green-hornet]

Most plans I work from have a key, the problem with most architects is they are not up to the current regs and use available software for their plans.

I always double check the lighting specs for instance, I have found that a requested and specified fitting does not comply or is unsuitable for the purpose.

 

[steptoe]

Not sure of programs but yes I think you will find this is fairley standard.To be honest the plans I have worked from have normally had key, but without it You should be able to work out most of them, if there are any on there you are not sure of post them up and we will try and assist.

+1

 

[Lee321]

looks bog standard to me

 

[steptoe]

Im not meaning to be awkward or anything,

but is this one of the things we have lost in proper apprenticeships.?

 

[green-hornet]

Im not meaning to be awkward or anything,but is this one of the things we have lost in proper apprenticeships.?

Symbols remain the same and we all learned them but some designers will impose their own *******ised copies, leaving us all to wonder what the hell is that?

 

[Theorysparky]

IEE OSG

IEE Electrical installation design guide

IEE Electricians guide to the Building regs

All have the same symbols

I thought the IEE were the boys

not Andy the Architect make it up as i go along bloke

if the symbols on those plans are 'the industry norm' why are they not in the publications ?

 

[steptoe]

from the descriptions you have gave quite a lot of peoiple(including myself) have known the meanings

 

[Lee321]

IEE OSGIEE Electrical installation design guide

IEE Electricians guide to the Building regs

All have the same symbols

I thought the IEE were the boys

not Andy the Architect make it up as i go along bloke

if the symbols on those plans are 'the industry norm' why are they not in the publications ?

i know where your coming from TS but in the industry you'd be expected to decipher little anomalies like this very quickly and get on with it opcorn

 

[ElectekAir]

Try here

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Technical/Symbols/Index.htm

Or

http://www.cadcoaching.co.uk/z_electrical_comp.jpg