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Then a double + 1.
Or patch a new bit of plasterboard in.
Or patch a new bit of plasterboard in.
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+1. I wont buy any other, especially the crap ones with the stupid blue lug that doesnt stay in place
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The worse ones are the ones you rotate a silly bit to engage the lug. The threaded bit just pushes away as you try and engage the screw.
Or the ones where the designer thought a round threaded insert in a round hole is going to stay put.
Or the ones where the designer thought a round threaded insert in a round hole is going to stay put.
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you might get away with using some 15mm metal angle or L-section for top and bottom of the row of sockets, and possibly the sides too.
Looks to me as there will be no gap between the faceplates, and no danger of the decorator filling the boxes with falling filler.
Like this
Looks to me as there will be no gap between the faceplates, and no danger of the decorator filling the boxes with falling filler.
Like this
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I,have a theory
Most plasterers are arsey
Most ceiling fitters are arsey
Most plasters are made of gypsum
Most ceiling tiles are made from gypsum
Conclusion.........gypsum addles the brain and makes you arsey
Not too sure what my excuse is though
Most plasterers are arsey
Most ceiling fitters are arsey
Most plasters are made of gypsum
Most ceiling tiles are made from gypsum
Conclusion.........gypsum addles the brain and makes you arsey
Not too sure what my excuse is though
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Nah! Some low expansion gun foam and a sharp knife would sort that!you might get away with using some 15mm metal angle or L-section for top and bottom of the row of sockets, and possibly the sides too.
Looks to me as there will be no gap between the faceplates, and no danger of the decorator filling the boxes with falling filler.
Like this
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Most people in the building trade are arsey.
i wouldnt be making a frame from steel because the plaster is too lazy to do his job properly
Rob_the_rich
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The foam might crush when the faceplates are screwed on, and when someone plugs something in. Also there might be problems with ignitibilty in the enclosure.Nah! Some low expansion gun foam and a sharp knife would sort that!
It is just two (possibly 4) bits of metal (aluminium?) screwed through the plasterboard with self-tapping screws. Hardly fabrication ; -)
Just trying to think of a way to make everyone on the site, including the client, a bit happier.
Should we not do our jobs properly, just because someone earlier in the chain didn't do theirs?
Would be an extra of course.
Sharpend
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In this instance if be inclined to swap out the boxes for a 35 or 47 as required, it's not like removing and replacing is going to damage the finish any more than it is?!
pewter
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Why should cables not be hanging out of boxes?
If i have left my cables at whatever length it is for a reason, there is no need for any plasterer to cut any cables. It is nothing to do with them. I do not like to squash mine in the box, and i often leave a little extra in case something has to be altered.
-With 'dot N dab' it usually does not matter if the hole is bigger as it can be filled in around them with hardwall.
-Dry lined i cut the socket out at the end using a map to locate my cables.
-With Insulation board 50mm-100mm i have used 2x 47 back boxes screwed back to back off the wall, making up 94mm from wall.
That pic looks like the board is screwed to battens off the wall, due to the depth.
If i was being nice i would remove the back boxes and pack out each with either another box or wood behind, to get the edge to the face of the board.
If they was been idiots and i had mounted the boxes to the specified distance from the wall. I would be charging them more / wait for them to come up with a solution before i returned.
I can coil cables in a box and leave enough slack for slight alterations. If you are having to do major alterations after the plasterer has been in on a regular basis I would review the reasons why. I see no reason to make other trades lives difficult, it works both ways, I gain respect from other trades by being courteous.
I'm with Lurch,
Work on a proper site with proper trades and respect goes both ways,
Not wrapping the cables in the box is bad manners IMHO
Work on a proper site with proper trades and respect goes both ways,
Not wrapping the cables in the box is bad manners IMHO
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Yes and a bit of 50mm duct tape over it to keep some of the plaster of the coiled up tails, out of the box and stop the plaster clogging up the 3.5mm screw holes.
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Erm........had hoped the tongue in cheek meant I wasn't being serious! :lol:
EDIT: Aluminium, have you considered possible electrolytic reaction if it touches the back box?
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There's a bloke I used to sub to that would have a 10mm² earth bolted to that as well.
pewter
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putting cables in the boxes for plasterers, encourages those idiots to float there trowel straight over the top of the box and fill it with plaster.
Taping wires out horizontal acts as a deterrent for them not to do that.
Taping something sharp to poke there eye out might encourage them to be more careful around cables.
Taping wires out horizontal acts as a deterrent for them not to do that.
Taping something sharp to poke there eye out might encourage them to be more careful around cables.
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At about 20p per box these little cardboard push-in covers can stop a lot of the plasterers crap getting in your back boxes...
http://www.screwfix.com/p/2-gang-back-box-protector-pack-of-50/50297
http://www.screwfix.com/p/1-gang-back-box-protector-pack-of-50/80010
so you can coil your cables out of the way...
and still keep a relatively clean box when you come back to second fix..
Or..
if you are really tight you could cut a bit a suitably sized cardboard to do the same job!
:innocent
http://www.screwfix.com/p/2-gang-back-box-protector-pack-of-50/50297
http://www.screwfix.com/p/1-gang-back-box-protector-pack-of-50/80010
so you can coil your cables out of the way...
and still keep a relatively clean box when you come back to second fix..
Or..
if you are really tight you could cut a bit a suitably sized cardboard to do the same job!
:innocent
Remember that mutual respect thing? Yeah, that's why plasterers don't fill my boxes, rather they usually clean the boxes out for me if they have inadvertantly got a bit of plaster in there.
No point trying to convince me it is a good idea to leave cables out, I have never met a decent electrician or plasterer that would agree with that.
pewter
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Nor will you convince me to squash the cables in back boxes
