when are you considered to be fully qualified

[sparkysam]

when are you considered to be fully qualified electrician

 

[steptoe]

:slap

:coat

 

[Andy™]

after a time served apprenticeship

 

[sparkysam]

I've done all my 2330 level 2 and 3, 17th edition, half way through my 2391, couple year experience on the tools, competent at testing , at what stage would you turn around and say I'm fully qualified

 

[kerching]

Personally speaking [having served 35+ years in the trade] we are not qualified so much as certifiable!

35 years FFS, jayzus I wish I had listened more at school............... :coat

....but I still think it is a good job, well mine is anyway

 

[Doc Hudson]

when are you considered to be fully qualified electrician

That depends upon what sort of electrical work you want to do? Houses, Fuel stations, Offshore rigs, Heavy Industrial, Street lights, Hospitals, etc, the list is endless as are specific qualifications. Competent with appropriate qualifications is probably more what you need to know. http://www.talk.electricianforum.co.uk/general-chat-area/15923-what-makes-you-competant.html

Doc H.

 

[Evans Electric]

You have opened a can of worms here Sparkysam but it 'll be interesting !!!

Back in the Stone Age we did a 6 year apprenticeship (School leaving age 15) hands on training and learning with electricians every day.

Do some time with the jointer.

Same with the breakdown guy.

Work in industry.

Commercial.

Schools.

Domestic.

Learn do install steel conduit .

Tray.

Trunking.

SWA,s

Install MICC .

Learn the Regs.

Drive the van.

Make the tea.

Wiring your conduit.

Wire with T/E.

Learn how to fit in with other trades.

Work up to 415v.

Install fire Alarms.

Install Nurse call systems.

Install security alarms.

Take a couple of C&Gs.

Become 21 .

Receive a JIB Electrician Grade card .

Start running jobs as forman.

Get JIB Approved Elect.Card

Travel all round the country working on overhead cranes.

Convert them to Radio control.

Become supervisor and learn quoting .

Build up new company.

Take bad debts and go bust.

Become self employed because "We want younger men, not old pharts"

Become Evans Electric.

Continue for next 19 years to now.

Join Electricians Forum and try to pass on what little I know.

Made to go back to college to do 17th edit.along with a class full of kids who have never actually had a job, just do courses.

Well thats how it used to be , I don't understand today's way .

 

[ProDave]

I would say you become fully qualified the day before you retire.

 

[kerching]

Exactly what Evans said apart from a few

Points

Delete the bit about cranes [not been there, not done that]

Insert 3 years at University [bSc Honours Degree in Electrical Engineering...FAILED, whoops!]

Data, Comms installation

UPS systems

Sh4fted by a close relative and lose family business established 60+ years, start up on my own 3 years ago.

Other than that, we could be twins!!!!................. :coat

 

[sparkysam]

I can tell you one thing, I've definitely got a degree in making tea and sweeping

 

[Megaohm7]

I've been working on this commercial refurb for a while now and I've learned about different wiring systems and installing containment. This is what an apprentice would usually cover over 6yrs. You cannot beat experience on the tools and being taught by experienced people. This industry is always changing so you are learning something new all the time no matter how experienced you are.I wish that there was more apprenticeship schemes run in this country. I wish that I'd done one.

 

[Evans Electric]

Apprenticships are as rare as rocking horse poo today, so I don't think any less of guys who are genuinely taking the only routes available . I get a couple of letters a month from guys of varying experience looking for work. I can't help , my phone stopped ringing a year ago. Some guys willing to work for nothing to gain experience, its not right.

Canoey , I forgot quite a few things along with sweeping up TBH . :C

 

[SPECIAL LOCATION]

You are fully qualified when the powers that be stop changing the rules and stop bringing out new regulations that need new qualifications to prove you are competent at understanding the new rule that they have just thought of......

:|

Until that time we are all partially qualified, awaiting the next amendment!

:coffee

 

[andy_spark]

I think we need a definition of fully qualified first!

 

[Theorysparky]

I wont ever be qualified (apparently you need a JIB card)

dont care

wont be made to care

the whole industry is a joke

just off to tescos to get me one of these

Search for

loads of clubcard points

chuck 50 notes on top jobs a good un !!!!!!

customer wont know :^O

whoops

i sound like a cowboy who can get anything and everthing to do most jobs

THERE IT IS !!!!!!!

got to feed my horses

cul

 

[OnOff]

I can only assume from talking to "one" at work today that you are fully qualified when your work it THAT GOOD you don't have to test it. The conversation went like this;

Him (to me): "You're too anal with all that testing stuff. I don't bother cos I know my work is spot on". Polarity testing (I meant the dead polarity testing)came up and his comment was "I always use a Martindale". Bless him, I don't usually wish Direct Contact on anybody but.......... ray

 

[ProDave]

Him (to me): "You're too anal with all that testing stuff. I don't bother cos I know my work is spot on". Polarity testing (I meant the dead polarity testing)came up and his comment was "I always use a Martindale". Bless him, I don't usually wish Direct Contact on anybody but.......... ray

I'd love to see one of his certificates.

Does he make up the figures? or calculate (from the length of cable) what they should be? or does he not bother with all that anal paperwork nonsense?

 

[revjames]

qualified? isnt that what happens on day 5?

 

[green-hornet]

qualified? isnt that what happens on day 5?

Thats what most get told these days!

 

[Andy™]

Bless him, I don't usually wish Direct Contact on anybody but.......... ray

get with the times - its now 'basic'!