100ma RCD mainswitch question

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It's a real shame how the OP has been treated, he is just looking for some advice not a grilling. Why do certain members criticise others, the forum should be helpful and informative instead a few people turn it into a "I'm a better electrician than you" forum.

 
It's a real shame how the OP has been treated, he is just looking for some advice not a grilling. Why do certain members criticise others, the forum should be helpful and informative instead a few people turn it into a "I'm a better electrician than you" forum.
the OP STATED it wasnt TT simply because he had never come across many of them!! WTF sort of way is that to deduce a supply type?

if people would start making their proper and true knowledge and experience known then it would be much easier to answer in a correct and proper manner,

rather than some folks trying to bluff their way through to be caught out when a basic question is asked,

and earthing type is one of the most basic of basic, the OP couldnt even answer that.

 
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It's a real shame how the OP has been treated, he is just looking for some advice not a grilling. Why do certain members criticise others, the forum should be helpful and informative instead a few people turn it into a "I'm a better electrician than you" forum.
Please read comments on post nineteen. Spoon feeding very basic answers to someone is very rarely a good way for anyone to learn anything. The OP chose not to reply or comment on specific guidance he was given. An electrician competent enough to work on a live consumer unit, should have the ability to understand the concept of how RCD's work and how discrimination of series connected RCD's RCBO's work. There is a vast difference between assisting someone doing a college course and a alleged competent person working on customer sites. In much the same way I would be shocked if members tried to talk a DIYer through a CU change on the forum. A person out of their depth should be turned back to shallower waters before they have accident too deep.

Doc H.

 
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I understand your concerns, but I just think there are better ways of advising someone. It seemed as though he was taking a right old grilling. I've seen it happen quite a few times on here tbh. It will only put fear into people who want to ask a question, but are scared to because of the reply. I was always taught by the electrician I did my apprenticeship with that there was no such thing as a stupid question.

 
I understand your concerns, but I just think there are better ways of advising someone. It seemed as though he was taking a right old grilling. I've seen it happen quite a few times on here tbh. It will only put fear into people who want to ask a question, but are scared to because of the reply. I was always taught by the electrician I did my apprenticeship with that there was no such thing as a stupid question.
Your statement leads me to think you have missed all of the guidance given in the first 6 posts. The OP is quite clearly out of his depth with no understanding of how discrimination of RCD's work. How relevant earthing types are to protective measures. didn't even know the earthing type? How much help can one give with limited feedback. The forum is not an idiots quick guide to electrical installation. Constructive debate and discussion requires two parties with some similar level of knowledge. Did the OP actually reply to explanations given in post 6, which are far from grilling in my opinion. If you go and look at all of the OP's replies on this thread there was very little feedback to take the discussion anywhere. We can only offer so much advice but if someone decides to ignore it then the forum can do no more.

Doc H.

 
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I have read all the posts and I can see why people are frustrated by the OP, but instead of grilling people I think that we should let him know what his faults are and then stop replying to his posts. I just don't understand why we have to carry on letting them know how "carp" they are.

 
I have read all the posts and I can see why people are frustrated by the OP, but instead of grilling people I think that we should let him know what his faults are and then stop replying to his posts. I just don't understand why we have to carry on letting them know how "carp" they are.
Unfortunately you are still missing the point that at no stage during the thread has the OP actually acknowledged what he does or doesn't know. As such it is very difficult for any member to advise what the faults are without a clear understanding of what is missing knowledge and what is just typing errors incorrectly explaining a problem. Again with reference to post six a lot of key points are raised the the OP has failed to acknowledge, agree with, disagree with or comment other than "Doh, should have said its either TNS or TNCS, I very rarely see TT!" So does this mean he understands RCD discrimination or not? Another review of the whole thread shows that several members only posted once, I have probably replied the most and some members have a more robust form of reply, but that is not much difference to the sort of replies that any person working in industry may get, it happens in factories every day no doubt. I would hardly call this thread a grilling and as any member has the ability to report any posts or threads they consider inappropriate neither do most of our members. No reports were made about this thread at all.

Doc H.

 
I have read all the posts and I can see why people are frustrated by the OP, but instead of grilling people I think that we should let him know what his faults are and then stop replying to his posts. I just don't understand why we have to carry on letting them know how "carp" they are.
I have just read this thread, and in my experiance I would say that the OP should not be doing work he is receiving payment for without full understanding of basic electrical knowledge.

The next time you wish or try to defend a person who posts such a basic question, without accepting and replying to other posts, try and see how you would react if this person was responsible for the installation in your grandmothers house! I for one would be very very concerned as to the training given today.

if the OP presented other material to the discussion, and accepted his limitations, I am sure instruction would have been given because this forum would not allow anyone to do it wrong, regardless of what each individual thinks of the OP. The OP in this instance refused to accept instruction, and rightly got the reception his ignorance deserves.

 
If you think this thread represents a grilling then you should try standing in a fully occupied assembly hall of a well known Midlands vehicle manufacturer being shouted and sworn at by the production manager because the supplier you are in charge of has delivered one faulty part to the pre-production assembly process. I've been "sacked" this way many times.

It is worrying that someone who is taking on paid work (and presumably therefore a scheme member) without the most basic understanding of how to discriminate between two parallel connected RCDs.

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Actually, just as worrying, is the question: "do they teach this stuff at college?"

 
The OP did not or could not give us the basic earthing arrangements, if I was presented with a 100mA front end RCD I would suspect TT.

I do not usually react to a thread in this way, but every oppertunity was given for the OP to actively defend the question and give more information, it does look like he has left the forum, which is a shame.

I would urge every home owner to be on full alert, some people should not be allowed to touch a screwdiriver.

 
30ma normal RCD's were fitted as main switches to the majority of council properties in London through the 80's & early 90's.
Common practice in other parts of the country as well I think.

Doc H.

 
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