An Amazing Periodic Inspection for

[kme]

I`ll give estimates "to the penny"; based on my estimate of the materials cost, labour and misc. costs. When the materials are "X1.2" to get the inc. vat figure, there are usually pence involved; so I leave `em there. I think that, for me, the clue is in the word "estimate" - its my rough guesstimate opcorn

 

[husky2013]

i think this is showing as you are a little cheesed off that you wasnt asked to do a pir and any remedials myself

not cheesed off about that at all badger, you win some you lose some at the end of the day! i just dont like seeing people getting ripped off! and with the client being someone among an occasional social group i feel the need to try and prevent it from happening! as i would any one else.

i am of the opinion that the person whom has carried this so called PIR out is simply trying to attemt to rip off the client owing to her lack of knowledge on what actually needs carrying out!

 

[husky2013]

Lets presume there were no previous tests on the property and no drawings of layout of marking up of anything..... So does it not in GN3 somewhere state that you should really do a 100% test, thats what i have always done and been taught...

Putting LIM here and there is just a get out from doing a proper job, and the NIC AC who did this is not alone, there are plenty of other Scams members doing the same for a

 

[wozz]

Code 4 for unearthed classI accessories?, underrated main switch?, supplementary bonding at boiler?, IPF of a mcb?,

You get what you pay for. only had a quick read. And as if the NIC would be interested they have his membership money!

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just reading the two pages i didnt spot so cathing up now

 

[steptoe]

a couple of things that I really want to see

the 1st one is,

these 2 RCDs fights with each other, I bet the sparks will fly!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2nd,

Ive NEVER seen double insulated tails before., be interesting as to what he is gonna fit.

this main earth he/she talks about, is this the same mysterious main earth that sometimes simply masquerades an an EARTHING CONDUCTOR ?

also, Im wondering if this supplementary bonding at the boiler was something they learned at plumbing school.?

 

[Doc Hudson]

I agree with the opinion that for

 

[safedepth]

Two things,

1, Some friend, they knock back your kind offer of a mates rate, saving

 

[husky2013]

Two things,1, Some friend, they knock back your kind offer of a mates rate, saving

 

[Voltimax]

Why don't you just go and break his legs?

You'll feel soooo much better.

 

[husky2013]

dya know what! I WOULD!! LOL! given half the chance i would!

 

[sirsparkabit]

The petty things mentioned in his report make me giggle!

No Grommet's oh no the place will burn down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! also not a code 4 as the cables may be held in place by mortar or plaster ect and without looking how do we know they are not?.

Mr Tony Cable of Niceic Inspection and Testing fame(seen on T.V and Training DVD's for PIR's) could of put the A/C right on that and much more.

At the end of the day a very shoddy PIR with too many Limitations or a Mixed up visual inspection on wrong form ,if a visual inspection form actually exists?

Does any scheme provider provide such a form i have only seen Home office versions which makes me wonder as to the validity of such a form in a court of law if you miss something "Visually" that later causes a fire or worse still Death.Where will we be then chaps!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cheers SSAB

 

[Phoenix]

So, if he has indeed tested "continuity of cpcs" as he has intimated with a tick mark; where are the R2 readings obtained thus? That is just ONE thing that jumped off the page at me....there are others.

Proven continuity using loop test? (remember that the installation is already engergised anyway, and that a modern loop tester measures voltage between live and earth prior to conducting the the test and will not attempt the test if the reading indicates its open)

 

[steptoe]

not exactly phoenix, disconnect the cpc from the cu on an immersion heater circuit and you will still get (most likely) an acceptable Zs.

parallel paths comes to mind.

 

[Phoenix]

Indeed, but you'll see that on your R2 and R1R2 tests as well unless you go and disconnect them in the same way you would on the initial verification of a new installation. You could do, but as GN3 advises to avoid unnecessary dismantling then I suggest that removing parallel paths on a PIR is generally not expected. On a domestic immersion heater it wouldn't be too much hassle to do, but if you had an office full of light fittings on a metallic grid, then removing parrallel paths is unacheieveable.

 

[steptoe]

but you have just said you have proved continuity by doing a loop test.

no you havent, you have proved you have an acceptable earth reading.

 

[husky2013]

well just to let you all know, we are going to do the remedials for the so called PIR tommorrow , will be carrying out all testing & inspections prior though so we are working on our own readings not the PIR readings that where carried out! well or lack of readings!

 

[Manator]

Will the same limitations be imposed, or have you managed to talked them into having a proper PIR, from which re-medials can be suggested, if required?

 

[husky2013]

We are going to test and inspect it all correctly prior to any other works being carried out!

due to the ltd scope of the PIR that they have had done, we have warned the client that the remedials that are listed may be alot greater then what is listed already! we are basically carrying out a PIR but not officially but we have incorperated it into our pricing told her the worst case scenario is going to be a Full Rewire!

 

[steptoe]

does it look like a full re-wire on a visual?

if not then its probably not gonna need one, .

>90% of re-wires I do show up on a visual before any tests are even thought about,

only in the minority when substantial faults are found on an otherwise 'good' install is a re-wired usually required.

 

[husky2013]

this is the problem steps, tomoz is the 1st day that we would of even seen the site!!! hence why we have been a little open with pricing! as we dont know what we are going to come across! she thought we where able to give her a definate price of the PIR that she sent us to look over! we are getting there a bit earlier tomorrow so we can assess it all before anything!