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Site doesn't work that tells you if your car is compliant or not .    So we have to go to the London  Clean Air site .      And apparently compliant cars  here & London  are non compliant in Leeds . 

Phone call to local radio......  "My car was non compliant  .....  but now that my personalised number plates have come  , car is now compliant "   :C    

 
I didn’t realise that we needed to check with local radio as well, I thoughts that advice was because the advert for the scheme were on there :C  

Am I glad I live out in sticks!! 

 
Wonderful  ,  you couldn't make it up .  
The other one I read about was on a classic vehicle site.  Someone had a restored trolley bus.  But a trolley bus needs an overhead pantograph.  So to drive it to shows, he tows a trailer with a diesel generator on it.  the diesel generator legally runs on red diesel,  it's classed as an electric vehicle so £0 road tax, and is allowed into the low emission zones.

 
My mind works in a certain way  ,  I see the council forming a "Clean Air Zone "   in Brum .  This is inside our Inner Ring Road   so we are creating a privileged zone for the elite who live & work within the Inner Ring Road .   

My mind says .........what about the rest of us ?      Why is it not created within the Outer Ring Road  to include more citizens in this utopian zone .   

My mind also says .......  all the Non compliant  vehicles will be filling the Inner Ring Road  , crawling around , belching their foul ,  deathly fumes  which will be drifting across the into the land of the beautiful people in the centre.    

 
They don't think about that Binky ,  OK its outside the Inner Ring Road   but I'd guess the amount of pollution coming off there  would drift  the  3  or 4 miles  into the Clean Air Zone .    Certainly off the Aston Distressway .   Anyone coming off the Motorway heading for the City Centre  in their diesel powered car  will be bowling up the Distressway  , straight into the Clean Air Zone  without knowing ,  cameras flashing and a fine through the letterbox  next week  .     Welcome to sunny Brum. 

 
yep  :slap .

Truth is, it's greener to maintain an old vehicle and keep it running than build a brand new one. OK particle emmissions aren't good, but I also have a theory......  The older vehicles weren't strangled by noise limits, so can be tuned to be more efficient, also, all the extra ****e like side impact bars etc etc makes modern vehicles ruddy heavy, so burn more fuel. I remember an old Top Gear episode were gob****e Clarkson was making the comment about the new rounder shape BMW 3 series being 20 stone heavy than the old squareish shape it replaced - that's a lot of extra weight to lug around, so that's a lot of fuel burn't.  So if we take out all the safety ****e, and stop stranggling engines then vehicles would do a lot more MPG than they currently do? 

 
They don't think about that Binky ,  OK its outside the Inner Ring Road   but I'd guess the amount of pollution coming off there  would drift  the  3  or 4 miles  into the Clean Air Zone .    Certainly off the Aston Distressway .   Anyone coming off the Motorway heading for the City Centre  in their diesel powered car  will be bowling up the Distressway  , straight into the Clean Air Zone  without knowing ,  cameras flashing and a fine through the letterbox  next week  .     Welcome to sunny Brum. 
I was on that road a couple of weeks ago got there from N Wales in 2.5 hours, then spent a whole hour doing the remaining 4 miles.

 
You have it in a nutshell there  Revo  .   The Midlands Links Motorways are constantly crawling across three lanes .  There is so much traffic in this country now ...thousands of trucks thundering past Brum  day & night   .   Thats why I thought the  HS2  would be better as a goods highway .   The most minor hitch in traffic round here causes massive tail backs that last all day .

Every inch of parking space in the city seems to have a vehicle on it .   

In my area they fight for a parking space every evening  , with many houses having  four vehicles ...........  but for reasons of being lazy bleeders they ignore the fact that every house has  three parking spaces off road .      I think theres an element  of  " I bought a £30,000  car and I want you  all to see it outside my house. "  

 
You have it in a nutshell there  Revo  .   The Midlands Links Motorways are constantly crawling across three lanes .  There is so much traffic in this country now ...thousands of trucks thundering past Brum  day & night   .   Thats why I thought the  HS2  would be better as a goods highway .   The most minor hitch in traffic round here causes massive tail backs that last all day .

Every inch of parking space in the city seems to have a vehicle on it .   

In my area they fight for a parking space every evening  , with many houses having  four vehicles ...........  but for reasons of being lazy bleeders they ignore the fact that every house has  three parking spaces off road .      I think theres an element  of  " I bought a £30,000  car and I want you  all to see it outside my house. "  


Thats why I always leave my car in the hotel car park and UBER everywhere when I'm down there... :(

 
yep  :slap .

Truth is, it's greener to maintain an old vehicle and keep it running than build a brand new one. OK particle emmissions aren't good, but I also have a theory......  The older vehicles weren't strangled by noise limits, so can be tuned to be more efficient, also, all the extra ****e like side impact bars etc etc makes modern vehicles ruddy heavy, so burn more fuel. I remember an old Top Gear episode were gob****e Clarkson was making the comment about the new rounder shape BMW 3 series being 20 stone heavy than the old squareish shape it replaced - that's a lot of extra weight to lug around, so that's a lot of fuel burn't.  So if we take out all the safety ****e, and stop stranggling engines then vehicles would do a lot more MPG than they currently do? 


+1

All these motors and gubbins to open & close the boot hands-free....

Or parallel park hands-free are completely unnecessary weight and manufacturing costs + carbon footprint.....

:popcorn

 
what on earth will they do with spaghetti junction then???


“Through” traffic from the M1 and M40 should use the toll 

but its pricy. We’ve just travelled down it and it’s deserted. 

Lower the the cost and then it would be used more - reducing heavy traffic on spaghetti junction , helping the air.

 
Deke....

quick question..... what's Gravelley Hill and Erdington like???

My daughter is thinking of moving there in the Summer 
Is she changing to Aston University  ?     Or is it a change of Student Let ?  

Erdington  & Gravelly Hill   .   I'd say it was similar to Selly Oak   with  rental properties , flats , houses into flats  etc  but plenty of owned properties too .  

Both areas are a mixture of white working class /white   middle class   , some parts of Erdington are very middle class  ... theres  a  fair amount of immigration but not massive, I think more from the EU  ,  fairly   low for Asians I 'd say .  West Indian  quite low .  

Where Erdington meets  the Chester Road  has very nice middle class housing   and the area gets a little grotty in places  as you go towards the City .      

Gravelly Hill itself has many large Victorian houses ,    it leads down to below Spaghetti Junction  and up to  Erdington High Street . 

The High Street is a bit past it's sell by date now , but is busy , still plenty of shops .  

The area is unlike Selly Oak in that the student population would be much lower ,  as you'd know , the main road through Selly Oak / Northfield  has many student pubs etc .  Not the case in Erdington . Gravelly Hill .       I've done a few jobs around the side roads where  houses were student lets  .  

I would't call it a scary  area  to be honest .   We had an office in Erdington some years ago .  Its busy , lot of traffic  ,  the Outer Circle (No.11) bus route goes through it .    

Parking , like anywhere is carp .    

Its not the best locality  for Birmingham University to be honest .    And like any city , best not to be walking about alone , at night .  

Areas NOT to be living in / or to visit :- 

Handsworth 

Ladywood

Alum Rock 

Washwood Heath  

Sparkhill.

Erdington photos  , two types of housing  & High Street 

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You have it in a nutshell there  Revo  .   The Midlands Links Motorways are constantly crawling across three lanes .  There is so much traffic in this country now ...thousands of trucks thundering past Brum  day & night   .   Thats why I thought the  HS2  would be better as a goods highway .   The most minor hitch in traffic round here causes massive tail backs that last all day .

Every inch of parking space in the city seems to have a vehicle on it .   

In my area they fight for a parking space every evening  , with many houses having  four vehicles ...........  but for reasons of being lazy bleeders they ignore the fact that every house has  three parking spaces off road .      I think theres an element  of  " I bought a £30,000  car and I want you  all to see it outside my house. "  
My son lives in Moseley, pays a fortune to rent a tiny 2 bed house. Not a bad area but as you say every house has 3 cars or vans! Its unbelievable. I pulled up and there was a space within 100 yards of his front door and it felt like I'd won the lottery! 

 
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