Carillion collapse.
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It is my understanding that it is a criminal offence to trade when insolvent, in other words, when your liabilities exceed your assets. Never ever see any of the tossers from these big firms prosecuted though
What about the liked of that ernest saunders Fennel. You know the guiness fraud trial bloke. The ONLY person in the world EVER to recover from alzheimers disease. Why was he not retried??
Someone told me today that the workers pension pots will all go down the pan. THIS is why you need unions... So they are part of McAlpine etc etc etc. The flying pickets would have SOON got the pension money back, dont ask for it, just TAKE it..
john..
What about the liked of that ernest saunders Fennel. You know the guiness fraud trial bloke. The ONLY person in the world EVER to recover from alzheimers disease. Why was he not retried??
Someone told me today that the workers pension pots will all go down the pan. THIS is why you need unions... So they are part of McAlpine etc etc etc. The flying pickets would have SOON got the pension money back, dont ask for it, just TAKE it..
john..
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The truth is John the workers per se do not have a voice that’s heard.
I worked for a company many moons ago that run a program that asked the workers for ideas on how to improve the company, not only did this bring together the workforce it broke down the barriers between us and them, morale was boosted and many of the ideas were implemented.
I worked for a company many moons ago that run a program that asked the workers for ideas on how to improve the company, not only did this bring together the workforce it broke down the barriers between us and them, morale was boosted and many of the ideas were implemented.
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The point being there need not be a single union for workers of various trades and industries there just needs to be more transparency and appreciation of all staff within a business regardless of position or title.
The other compulsory rule should be that every 5 years the board have to go back to the roots of the business and work on the coal face. This will keep them in touch of reality.
Sadly it will not happen for the humans worst enemy is himself and his need for greed.
The other compulsory rule should be that every 5 years the board have to go back to the roots of the business and work on the coal face. This will keep them in touch of reality.
Sadly it will not happen for the humans worst enemy is himself and his need for greed.
I worked for a place once.. I was supposed to improve quality there. In my interview i was asked, "What would you do to get our staff to improve the quality of their output" I said, "Well, why do you blame them?? First thing i would do is to look at the quality of their work instructions, if they do not know EXACTLY what they are trying to acheive they will never get there.. Followed by. "you lot might be the best dart players in the world, if i took the numbers off the board though you will all be courgetteed..."
Instant job...
To start with, the workers hated me.. They decided that i was there to pick holes in what they did. I got a bunch of them together and said, "listen, i am here to see why you lot turn out ****, BUT, i know it is not you lot to blame, it is the **** work instructions and **** methods you have been given. i am here to help you, not pick holes in your work. After that, we all worked as a team, they loved me, and between us we did miracles..
Everyone is quick to blame the workers, the management think they know it all, but do not. They used to have to thermal spray shafts and the like, and bores of holes to a certain size, to obtain certain fits.
These were shafts and holes 18" in diameter sometimes.. They would spray a bit on, let it cool most of the day, spray a bit more. I said to the managers, why do you not just measure the temperature of the parts, do some calculations as you know the coefficient of expansion of the material, spray as required. and when it all cools down it will fit.
They seemed amazed, and were more amazed to see it worked. The workers even got me to teach them how to do it themselves. Massive increase in productivity and no more courgette ups..
One of the managers said to me "how did you know how to do that??" i said; "a mine of useless information i am!!" They said; "that is one of the most amazing things we have ever learnt. They were all PHD types in materials technology, i am a 5ww blacksmith [welder]
Difference is, i got sense...
john..
Instant job...
To start with, the workers hated me.. They decided that i was there to pick holes in what they did. I got a bunch of them together and said, "listen, i am here to see why you lot turn out ****, BUT, i know it is not you lot to blame, it is the **** work instructions and **** methods you have been given. i am here to help you, not pick holes in your work. After that, we all worked as a team, they loved me, and between us we did miracles..
Everyone is quick to blame the workers, the management think they know it all, but do not. They used to have to thermal spray shafts and the like, and bores of holes to a certain size, to obtain certain fits.
These were shafts and holes 18" in diameter sometimes.. They would spray a bit on, let it cool most of the day, spray a bit more. I said to the managers, why do you not just measure the temperature of the parts, do some calculations as you know the coefficient of expansion of the material, spray as required. and when it all cools down it will fit.
They seemed amazed, and were more amazed to see it worked. The workers even got me to teach them how to do it themselves. Massive increase in productivity and no more courgette ups..
One of the managers said to me "how did you know how to do that??" i said; "a mine of useless information i am!!" They said; "that is one of the most amazing things we have ever learnt. They were all PHD types in materials technology, i am a 5ww blacksmith [welder]
Difference is, i got sense...
john..
Looks like more giants are in trouble;
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/business-42885211
Question: you are given a licence to print money how can you possibly loose it all?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/business-42885211
Question: you are given a licence to print money how can you possibly loose it all?
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Carillion, Capita.
Eggs and Basket spring to mind!
AND KPMG have signed the books off for the last few years and not noticed anything
the Bigger Boys will get bailed out, their lifestyle won't change much. The smaller ones will most likely get NO help and go to the Wall. The Liquidators will dry ream it for all it's worth . The Goverment will carry on awarding contracts to whoever the relevant Departmental Head/Minister was servicing/being serviced by whilst at Oxford/Cambridge etc and it will repeat itself like smoked Mackerel
Eggs and Basket spring to mind!
AND KPMG have signed the books off for the last few years and not noticed anything
the Bigger Boys will get bailed out, their lifestyle won't change much. The smaller ones will most likely get NO help and go to the Wall. The Liquidators will dry ream it for all it's worth . The Goverment will carry on awarding contracts to whoever the relevant Departmental Head/Minister was servicing/being serviced by whilst at Oxford/Cambridge etc and it will repeat itself like smoked Mackerel
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No you’re wrong Ducky, Capita have assured us that they are not in the same position as Carillion- so that’ll be less than four weeks until they go bang then????
Damn, I was hoping to not renew my tv licence.
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