Funny What Get Passed As Ok!

[Nidgeben]

Carrying out an EICR on a set of four blocks of flats I came across this DB that had been changed at some point and the person carrying it out had stripped out the old DB guts leaving the metal box and mounted the new one on a timber board over the top. I presume they thought this would be best as the installation is still partly1960's wiring so conduit earthing for many of the sub circuits. But in doing so they only left 100mm between the front cover and the wall as it tucked up above the door.

I have left this one to last so looking forward to tomorrow.

 

[Andy™]

do you have upside-down electric in surrey?

 

[Nidgeben]

Well I think that sums up the calibre of the installer and previous inspections

 

[ProDave]

And note which favourite scheme he belongs to.

 

[Steve3948]

And note which favourite scheme he belongs to.

Dave, That's an Inspection and Test label, not installation, so what we don't know is what the report generated from this test and inspection listed as requiring action.It may have coded the installation with various observations of which none have been carried out.

This is why I don't like to apply test and inspection label until they have had the observations corrected.

Too easy to point a finger without the facts IMHO.

 

[Nidgeben]

Dave, That's an Inspection and Test label, not installation, so what we don't know is what the report generated from this test and inspection listed as requiring action.

It may have coded the installation with various observations of which none have been carried out.

This is why I don't like to apply test and inspection label until they have had the observations corrected.

Too easy to point a finger without the facts IMHO.

Steve, I see why you say that but I know the NICEIC would disagree as the label is to show that it has been inspected and what date. To me the issue would that the inspecting engineer has given the installation five years when obviously thought the photo may not show it fully the installation has some major defects that are from long before they tested it and as such they should have reduce the time until the next inspection down to say one or two years. That would mean if they did not carry out the remedial works or like this case it appears only some of the required works the gap to highlight that would be much shorter as we all know people think if they have a certificate that says five year it's ok for five years as they don't get told or bother to read the details of the certificate so are not aware it means nothing until remedial works are complete.

 

[Doc Hudson]

If you read the actual text in the recommendations box on the model EICR form in BS7671 regarding the next inspection date, the phrase is: "Subject to the necessary remedial actions being taken, I/we recommend that the installation is further inspected and tested by ......(date). So it could be argued that an apparently longer date could be recommended, even though some known remedial work is needed. As has been said, the full report would have to be read. As the dates from the label do not actually mean is was satisfactory or not. just that is has been inspected.

Doc H.

 

[ProDave]

Perhaps if you have sight of the previous report, and find the previous report has coded faults that have NOT been rectified, then issue an EDN?

It's a bit like if you take your car for am MOT and there's a minor fault, but not bad enough to fail, you get an advisory.  If you haven't had that minor fault attended to by the next test, it's very likely it will fail.

 

[batty]

Not necessarily all depends on the tester with MOT's

 

[Sidewinder]

TBH, IF the install is unsatisfactory my labels show the next inspection date as the day after the inspection!

There is nothing preventing you from doing this either.

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

That label is from an address not 5 min from me. I have done board changes in a similar way, mounting on top of the existing.

Dave, That's an Inspection and Test label, not installation, so what we don't know is what the report generated from this test and inspection listed as requiring action.

It may have coded the installation with various observations of which none have been carried out.

This is why I don't like to apply test and inspection label until they have had the observations corrected.

Too easy to point a finger without the facts IMHO.

Correct. Stickers mean nothing without the paperwork.

 

[NozSpark]

I have been thinking that it might be an acceptable way of replacing the CU.... not very neat though and the cable entering from the left isnt very good

 

[kerching]

I am envious of the woodworking skills!

How can you make a piece of wood look so rough?....looks like its last home was in a skip!

Merely commenting

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

When I said similar I meant neater (no smilies on this tablet)

 

[Bruspark]

They probably took up a floorboard in the cupboard to make the wooden bit :yellow card

 

[ProDave]

I will be interested to see what codes you give this and why.

Sure it's rough as F.

but the wiring regs don't preclude tatty.

Upside down CU is probably against manufacturers instructions.

But mounting it to a wooden back board is okay. Regs don't say it has to be a nice piece of wood.

The cable coming out the side is wrong, but it would be just as quick to put it right there and then than comment on it.

 

[kerching]

IS the consumer Unit upside down?

I know its a bad photo BUT the MCBs are the right way around.....i did not think they actually fitted correctly upside down due to the offset in the base. AND i cannot see a cover screw hole visible beneath the breakers soooooooooo my hypothesis Dr Watson is that it is the correct way around. Looks as dodgy as a Politicians Expenses claim though

 

[Andy™]

the sticker far side of board looks the correct way, so i dont think its upside-down

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

The only thing upside down in the pic is the warning flash, and so what.