HD Freeview

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

Ok, i give up, i have asked and Googled & still :C I have checked HD Freeview is available now at my postcode (i think its only BBC1 & ITV1 at the mo) but where is it. Do you have to re tune ? Do those channels automatically go HD . I have a HDTV (not HD ready), do i still need an external HD Decoder. The picture is so good anyway will i be able to tell headbang .

 

[Robojin]

No you will need a new decoder, such as the HumaxHD, still a bit pricey, but cheaper than the large Satellite rip-off subscription

http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.207-9326.aspx

 

[Nicky Tesla]

do i need a dish or will an aerial still work

 

[Robojin]

do i need a dish or will an aerial still work

FreeSat STB if you want to use a Sky dish

FreeviewHD STB if you want to use an aerial

The latest range of Panasonic Plasmas have both FreeviewHD and FreeSat receivers built in, works out as good value

 

[Robojin]

Also don't be fooled into buying a 'Digital aerial' it's down to signal quality, if you have a good signal on your existing aerial it will likely work fine

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

No you will need a new decoder, such as the HumaxHD, still a bit pricey, but cheaper than the large Satellite rip-off subscriptionhttp://direct.tesco.com/q/R.207-9326.aspx

Are you sure ? I have a new HD tv

 

[Robojin]

Are you sure ? I have a new HD tv

Let me have the model number of your TV, only in the last month did Sony, Panasonic, LG and Samsung launch FreeViewHD so the models are only now just reaching the shops

When you have a TV that supports HD resolution e.g. 1080p (1920x1080) it can display HD from an HD source such as Blu-Ray, in order to display HD from FreeSat, SkyHD or FreeViewHD you must have either a built in decoder for these services or as with SkyHD via an HD STB.

If your TV does not have a built in decoder for FreeSat or the new FreeViewHD service, you will require a new STB if you don't wish to subscribe to SkyHD

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

Thanks, i have tried looking it up, will find out later, me thinks i have been stitched up :Blushing

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

Hi, My Tv is a Samsung VE46B7020WW. It was sold to me as 'Full HD' but i doupt it.

 

[bengie]

as already said an HD tv is nothing to do with its reception, its the screen and processing of it. you haven't been ripped off at all.

and how is skyHD a rip off? it has 37 HD channels compared to freeviewHD's 2 and virgin has how many?

 

[Robojin]

Hi, My Tv is a Samsung VE46B7020WW. It was sold to me as 'Full HD' but i doupt it.

It supports Full HD 1080p so it simply boils down to how you get HD content

Your purchase options are

1) Blu-Ray player

2) FreeSat STB (using a feed from a Sky dish)

3) FreeViewHD STB (only Humax model currently)

4) SkyHD

As Bengie states, SkyHD has the most HD channels currently (and will likely stay that way), it simply boils down to which gives you the best value for money based on your viewing habits

 

[SLIPSHOD & SLAPDASH]

as already said an HD tv is nothing to do with its reception, its the screen and processing of it. you haven't been ripped off at all.

If thats the case, whats the difference between full HD & HD ready tv's ?

and how is skyHD a rip off? it has 37 HD channels compared to freeviewHD's 2 and virgin has how many?

Who even mentioned Sky ? not me. I wrote that i was stitched up when i purchased the Tv as i was told you can get HD ready, that needs a HD input or full HD (like mine) that has a HD tuner built in. It was all verbal in the shop so its not worth complaining to them.

 

[bengie]

the sky comment wasn't aimed at you mate

FULL HD = a resolution of 1920x1080 pixels and capable of displaying a 1080p signal which is a resolution of 1920x1080 in progressive scan.

HD ready = a resolution that is higher than SD(standard definition) but not 1080p("HD" generally has a few recognised resolutions being 480i, 480p, 720i, 720p, 1080i and 1080p but some TV's display a non-standard resolution that has to be scaled sadly. its a bit of a mine field if your not savvy to be honest.)

interlaced = this is how TV used to be displayed, what happened was you had a refresh rate of 50hz (50 frames a second) but it was made up of only 25 images where they displayed the odd lines of a frame followed by the even lines of a frame so it spread a 25fps video over 50fps which resulted in a smoother video but fine horizontal lines would shake/jump if they were split over odd and even lines.

progressive scan = with progressive scan the entire frame would be displayed on every scan so images no longer shake/jump.

i hope that helps rather than hinders.

 

[bengie]

I wrote that i was stitched up when i purchased the Tv as i was told you can get HD ready, that needs a HD input or full HD (like mine) that has a HD tuner built in. It was all verbal in the shop so its not worth complaining to them.

sadly in this case you have either misunderstood or been mis-sold, believe me none of us are trying to trick you here.

if your unsure of anything like this in the future then why not ask on here as we have people that cover most topics

 

[vandalay]

and how is skyHD a rip off? it has 37 HD channels compared to freeviewHD's 2 and virgin has how many?

I consider it a rip off because they are basically charging you a extra tenner for the same channels you are already paying for.

 

[bengie]

but they aren't the same channels, how is freeviewHD not a rip off when a normal freeview box can be had for about

 

[vandalay]

You can pick a freeviewHD box for under a

 

[Robojin]

the sky comment wasn't aimed at you mate interlaced = this is how TV used to be displayed, what happened was you had a refresh rate of 50hz (50 frames a second) but it was made up of only 25 images where they displayed the odd lines of a frame followed by the even lines of a frame so it spread a 25fps video over 50fps which resulted in a smoother video but fine horizontal lines would shake/jump if they were split over odd and even lines.

progressive scan = with progressive scan the entire frame would be displayed on every scan so images no longer shake/jump.

i hope that helps rather than hinders.

frames per second and Interlaced are not the same thing, animation typically requires 24fps+ for the image(s) to perceived as animation by our brains

Interlaced (or interleaved) ; in CRT's the focused scanning electrons target a phosphor cluster sequentially in a horizontal row, the P39 phosphor used, glows for a known period (decay), in the early sets the tech could not handle Non-Interlaced (now referred to as progressive scan) due mostly to the decay of the phosphor before the next scan, any refresh of the phosphor of less than 72Hz will picked up buy the eye as flicker due to the decay. By using interleaved scanning the flicker could be eliminated for the vast majority

100Hz, 600Hz now banded around is very much marketing, LCD, LED, Plasmas do not use scanning in the context of CRT, the individual pixels are either On or Off in simplistic terms

In today's tech 1080i (interleaved) and 1080p (progressive) differ in the way described above and is more about the ability of the hardware to handle the bit-stream bandwidth requirements

 

[Robojin]

I consider it a rip off because they are basically charging you a extra tenner for the same channels you are already paying for.

My problem with Sky is, due to the current lack of competition particular in HD content they charge an unrealistic price, as FreeSat and FreeviewHD HD content expands I'd expect Sky to reduce prices or start to lose customers

However they are having a nice windfall due to the recession as customers are not going out as much

 

[Robojin]

You can pick a freeviewHD box for under a