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Well you only "take part" if you have been a little naughty and have been working self employed without declaring your income.

The rest of us have been declaring our income and paying our taxes, so have no need to "take part" :innocent

 
You also have to declare such things as cash from scrap copper weigh in's.

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Is this the same thing as I've heard on the radio
Probably, it was the plumbers this time last year. my local heating engineer (gets very upset if you call him a plumber) said if any are now investigated & are found to have done undeclared cash jobs HMRC do a guesstimate on any other potential cash jobs you might have done & stiff you with a tax bill.

 
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Probably, it was the plumbers this time last year. my local heating engineer (gets very upset if you call him a plumber) said if any are now investigated & are found to have done undeclared cash jobs HMRC do a guesstimate on any other potential cash jobs you might have done & stiff you with a tax bill.
I know of a plumber/heating engineer that got done about 15 years ago and they done exactly what your saying. They do a guess and that's what you owe. :)

 
just dont phone them up, my mate is a plumber and called their enquiry line just for some information and they investigated him!!!

 
You also have to declare such things as cash from scrap copper weigh in's.
Do you mean like the Tatters do , who drive round the streets every day collecting scrap iron and obviously have a collector's license. ?

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Help! I've just been told about the Electrician's Tax Safe Plan....Has anybody else heard about this?

Do you think it is worth taking part?

HM Revenue & Customs: Electricians' Tax Safe Plan campaign
Do you have anything to declare , Sparky 72.? :Blushing

 
just dont phone them up, my mate is a plumber and called their enquiry line just for some information and they investigated him!!!
The phrase you are looking for is:

"Don't trouble trouble, until trouble troubles you"

 
You could just declare your income and not have any issues if they choose to investigate you?

 
Trouble is that after they have guesstimated a figure for this year they then multiply x the last 6 years. So you WILL get stung big time even if you think their original figure is reasonable. This happened to a plumber friend.

Do you think that you could divert their attention by telling them that the Rbs done a cash job on you as a taxpayer!

 
Help! I've just been told about the Electrician's Tax Safe Plan....Has anybody else heard about this?

Do you think it is worth taking part?

HM Revenue & Customs: Electricians' Tax Safe Plan campaign
Hello spark_72, welcome to the forum. Why would you think its worth taking part? Do you have undisclosed earnings you need to get straight with HMRC? Who has just told you and what bought the conversation up? I cannot see any logical reason for any person who has been filing their TAX assessment forms correctly for may years, (possibly with the assistance of an employed accountant), to need to consider this. I have removed the advertising link for the private tax services company that you included as this would be against the forum T&C's (especially if you have interests with the said company). The HMRC website link carries sufficient information I think.

Doc H.

 
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just dont phone them up, my mate is a plumber and called their enquiry line just for some information and they investigated him!!!
I know I have read also.

"we strongly advise that you speak with a tax investigation expert who is well versed in HMRC campaign tactics before contacting HM Revenue and Customs to take part in the Electrician

 
undoubtably the MAIN reason Part P was approved through parliament in the first place was that it would provide HMRC with a nice long papertrail list of all the major jobs every self employed domestic sparky has carried out every tax year since 2005

just dressed it up as health and safety!

And we are paying for the privelige!

my god we've all been so had!

if they could get away with it there would be a part P for plasterers/painters/gardeners and everyone else whos likely to get paid in cash......watch this space!

 
the ONLY reason for part P in case you have all forgotten was some MPs daughter(or something) trying to get a cheap job done by a horse riding gentleman.

 
undoubtably the MAIN reason Part P was approved through parliament in the first place was that it would provide HMRC with a nice long papertrail list of all the major jobs every self employed domestic sparky has carried out every tax year since 2005
just dressed it up as health and safety!

And we are paying for the privelige!

my god we've all been so had!

if they could get away with it there would be a part P for plasterers/painters/gardeners and everyone else whos likely to get paid in cash......watch this space!
I think the logic of this assumption is flawed on many counts. As the information gathered would have to be sifted and sorted to establish which jobs are actually self employed sparks jobs. When you consider the fact that Part-P only covers a proportion of domestic work and that work may not even be carried out by self employed electricians, it could be done by builders, kitchen fitters, bathroom fitters, gardeners etc. Or DIY persons themselves or a large company with employed electricians and that not all self employed sparks work is domestic anyway what about their commercial jobs? Then when you also consider there is not even one single point of reference. If you include all of the councils and contractor scheme providers. It is a long way from a nice long easy paper trail. Rather it would be a complex pile of individual lits that would need extensive sorting to get to a list of self employed sparks work. Whereas things like the sub-contractors CIS is more the HMRC mode of working, put the onus on a contractor to file info if not get penalty. Part P is a long way short of a useful HMRC tool.

Doc H.

 
Could they not just demand a list of jobs from the scheme providers set against the person being investigated .

They can even look on here to see who,s working.

Just received the letter myself , called " Electricians Tax Safe Plan"

It says 10 plumbers have been arrested across the UK .

Its worded to scare any tax dodgers into action by the look of it.

 
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Could they not just demand a list of jobs from the scheme providers set against the person being investigated .They can even look on here to see who,s working.

Just received the letter myself , called " Electricians Tax Safe Plan"

It says 10 plumbers have been arrested across the UK .

Its worded to scare any tax dodgers into action by the look of it.
What about non notifiable domestic jobs and commercial jobs.....

AND

It would be a lot of work to get partial info.........

I had the letter as well today.....

Does that mean I am a real electrician?

:p

 
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