Looking for Experience/Work

[Mako]

Hi,

I am midway through a career change and am looking for someone who is willing to take on a newbie for the purposes of experience and/or paid work.  I have completed the practical and electrical theory training and will soon have my logic certification for 17th Edition wiring regs and DEI (Part-P).  Once I have completed this I will take the small online top-up course to make me compliant with Scottish building regs then apply for membership NICEIC.

I will be completing the 17th Edition and DEI over two weeks starting on the 28th of March.  I would do this sooner but cant afford to give up my job before qualified unless it is to work with someone in the trade.

Any help or advice here would be greatly appreciated.

Dave (a.k.a Mako)

 

[Sharpend]

what is DEI as I'm sure our southern Scot (ProDave) doesn't need part p? 

 

[Mako]

what is DEI as I'm sure our southern Scot (ProDave) doesn't need part p? 

Domestic Electrical Installer Certificate.

My understanding is that DEI covers Part-P and it is this that certification will be provided for.  The courses run by Logic used to call this section Part-P but think they have now changed it to DEI.  Not sure if this is now industry wide though.

 

[NozSpark]

If you work in Scotland then any "Domestic Electrical Installer" or Part P course is totally irrelevant and un-necessary

Part P is a building regulation that is only applicable in England and Wales

 

[NozSpark]

If you work in Scotland then any "Domestic Electrical Installer" or Part P course is totally irrelevant and un-necessary

Part P is a building regulation that is only applicable in England and Wales

 

[Essex1]

Wow!  Hats off to the guy that sold a Part P 'course' in Scotland.

 

[Mako]

If you work in Scotland then any "Domestic Electrical Installer" or Part P course is totally irrelevant and un-necessary

Part P is a building regulation that is only applicable in England and Wales

From what I have been told I believe the Part-P covers the UK as a whole.  The Scottish version is basically an addition to the regs.  Can do the online course for £95 once Part-P certified.

 

[NozSpark]

Whoever told you that was telling porkies...see below

However, Part P electrical self-certification schemes in England & Wales do not apply to work in Scotland

Taken from here

http://electrical.theiet.org/building-regulations/scotland-n-ireland/

 

[NozSpark]

Whoever told you that was telling porkies...see below

However, Part P electrical self-certification schemes in England & Wales do not apply to work in Scotland

Taken from here

http://electrical.theiet.org/building-regulations/scotland-n-ireland/

From what I have been told I believe the Part-P covers the UK as a whole.  The Scottish version is basically an addition to the regs.  Can do the online course for £95 once Part-P certified.

Do you have a list of the courses that you're taking...

I suspect that you've been sold a package???

 

[Mako]

Whoever told you that was telling porkies...see below

Taken from here

http://electrical.theiet.org/building-regulations/scotland-n-ireland/

Do you have a list of the courses that you're taking...

I suspect that you've been sold a package???

Course link is here.

http://www.options-skills.co.uk/electrician-courses-birmingham/

I knew there would be a cross-over or top-up to do once I had completed this but it made sense to do the Part-P to allow me to work elsewhere in the UK should it come up (family are in the borders and I may move that way myself).

initially I was told that the additional element needed for Scotland was a 3 day course but I have since found it online via NICEIC and priced at £95.  Still need to understand if that is all though but will do that when I travel to Birmingham for my 17th Ed and DEI at the end of March.

 

[NozSpark]

I'm afraid that there are no course details on that link..

I assume that they know that you live and are planning to work in Scotland??

If so then I'd say that they have miss sold you the DEI course as a minimum

 

[NozSpark]

I'm afraid that there are no course details on that link..

I assume that they know that you live and are planning to work in Scotland??

If so then I'd say that they have miss sold you the DEI course as a minimum

 

[Mako]

I'm afraid that there are no course details on that link..

I assume that they know that you live and are planning to work in Scotland??

If so then I'd say that they have miss sold you the DEI course as a minimum

It is possible but, as I said, it may end up coming in handy anyways so am not to fussed about it.  Just having difficulty confirming that the below course is all I will need to bring me up to spec for working as a Domestic Electrician in Scotland.

https://www.niceic.com/contractor/training-courses/online-blended-courses/scottish-building-regulations-qualification

 

[eodneil]

I'm pretty sure from listening to Scottish Sparkies on here, that SJIB have a firm grip on who can and cannot work on Electrical Installations regardless of the sector and that NICEIC and the like do not have much say. I would pull your money back if possible and spend it on some proper qualifications to eventually achieve the 2357 NVQ which SJIB require.

 

[NozSpark]

You said in your opening post that you want to do these qualifications and then join the NICEIC

As Part P is irrelevant in Scotland then the NICEIC's Domestic installer scheme is also irrelevant (and a waste of money),, the only NICEIC scheme that will be suitable is their Approved Contractor Scheme, however IIRC you will need a level 3 course and at least 12 months of trading to qualify..

See here..

https://www.niceic.com/join-us/approved-contractor-scheme

 

[NozSpark]

as eodneil says... I think that the NICEIC are pretty much totally irrelevant in Scotland

I'd say that the advice that you've been given up to now has been very suspect

 

[Mako]

as eodneil says... I think that the NICEIC are pretty much totally irrelevant in Scotland

I'd say that the advice that you've been given up to now has been very suspect

Had another look into it and called NICEIC to query some of the above.  They can confirm that they are active and accepted in Scotland and membership with them provides the same services and benefits. e.g. certify and sign-off any of my own work that would normally require a Building Warrant.  

The Scottish Building Regulations Qualification can be purchased and studied online.  The exam, however, will be at a training center under exam conditions.  I can apply to do this now should I chose to do so.

 

[Mako]

This helped clear things up also.  NICEIC are listed on this as an approved Scheme Provider.

https://www.east-ayrshire.gov.uk/Resources/PDF/S/sbsaEICert.pdf

 

[NozSpark]

I'd guess that they're only recognised as Approved Contractors though